Trailblazer
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I have facts that prove to me that Baha'u'llah is the returned Messiah has all kinds of factual evidence to support it, but the facts that prove it to me won’t prove it to everyone.You are contradicting yourself.
You claim that you have facts that prove he is the returned Messiah, and then you say that there are no facts that can prove that anyone is the returned Messiah.
God claims can never be proven as a fact that everyone will believe and that is why they are beliefs.
I would because it is my moral responsibility, but God is not a human who has moral responsibilities.And if you see someone in danger of imminent death, would you go to help them in whatever way you could, or would you say, "Well, that's not MY responsibility," and walk away?
No, cherry picking would be only looking at certain verses that support my beliefs, but I don’t do that. I am willing to look at any evidence that does not support my beliefs, and I have seen it, but I know it is not true because I have checked it against the evidence I know is true.If you only look at the evidence that supports your beliefs, then you are cherry picking.
I said not just the bulk of it, but also the content, but speaking if bulk, those prolific authors did not write as much as fast as Baha’u’llah did.There are plenty of people who are prolific authors. That fact they wrote a huge amount does not prove divinity.
“So prolific was this period, that during the first two years after His return from His retirement, according to the testimony of Nabíl, who was at that time living in Baghdád, the unrecorded verses that streamed from His lips averaged, in a single day and night, the equivalent of the Qur’án! As to those verses which He either dictated or wrote Himself, their number was no less remarkable than either the wealth of material they contained, or the diversity of subjects to which they referred. A vast, and indeed the greater, proportion of these writings were, alas, lost irretrievably to posterity. No less an authority than Mírzá Áqá Ján, Bahá’u’lláh’s amanuensis, affirms, as reported by Nabíl, that by the express order of Bahá’u’lláh, hundreds of thousands of verses, mostly written by His own hand, were obliterated and cast into the river. “Finding me reluctant to execute His orders,” Mírzá Áqá Ján has related to Nabíl, “Bahá’u’lláh would reassure me saying: ‘None is to be found at this time worthy to hear these melodies.’ …Not once, or twice, but innumerable times, was I commanded to repeat this act.”God Passes By, pp. 137-138
“A certain Muhammad Karím, a native of Shíráz, who had been a witness to the rapidity and the manner in which the Báb had penned the verses with which He was inspired, has left the following testimony to posterity, after attaining, during those days, the presence of Bahá’u’lláh, and beholding with his own eyes what he himself had considered to be the only proof of the mission of the Promised One: “I bear witness that the verses revealed by Bahá’u’lláh were superior, in the rapidity with which they were penned, in the ease with which they flowed, in their lucidity, their profundity and sweetness to those which I, myself saw pour from the pen of the Báb when in His presence. Had Bahá’u’lláh no other claim to greatness, this were sufficient, in the eyes of the world and its people, that He produced such verses as have streamed this day from His pen.” God Passes By, p. 138
Wake up and smell the coffee, as you are about 150 years late, because it happened in the last half of the 19th century and how it happened is all in that video you won’t watch.Well, you lemme know when it happens, okay?
Okay, I see what you mean, so I just that sixth criterion to the list of five.True, but a prophecy that the sun will rise tomorrow would pass that criterion.