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Loving God/Jesus?
- Thread starter w00t
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I can't talk for all Christians, but I personally do experience Jesus. Jesus is much more than an idea to me. Since you are a non-believer, then maybe you find it difficult to understand how a believer would experience God. God is as real to me as my children and other loved ones. The sensation is that of love.
Doodah
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I personally equate anyone who claims to love 'jesus' to someone who has met a partner on the internet, who does not speak the same language. The persons words have been translated a few times, and the recipient likes the translation enough to love the person, even though said person who calls themselves 'jesus' may in fact be 'eric smith' from rotherham, who in fact fixes fridges for a living.
God is far more than an idea... I have felt His presence, both in me personally as well as in Church, I have felt His love for me and all humanity, I have heard His voice...
God is ultimate wisdom and knowledge in the reality, within heaven it’s the source of all life within our known reality….so in admiration and acceptance of that, is greater Uniolove, then this questioning is pertaining too…..
Uniolove (unconditional love) is like in one of our articles and is a separate thing to love and can be related to the inspiration you see, when you watch young children playing in the school yard and seeing the overwhelming joy they have…..our earthly love is of a 7th dimensional sort, which can also be easily replaced with lust and even harlotry or idolatry…..
Yeshua in our own case is loved like a son or brother, son in him being a sweet-heart and brother as sits equal doing the work of God….
Uniolove (unconditional love) is like in one of our articles and is a separate thing to love and can be related to the inspiration you see, when you watch young children playing in the school yard and seeing the overwhelming joy they have…..our earthly love is of a 7th dimensional sort, which can also be easily replaced with lust and even harlotry or idolatry…..
Yeshua in our own case is loved like a son or brother, son in him being a sweet-heart and brother as sits equal doing the work of God….
I am not knocking your experience, but I do contend that you can't KNOW for sure that what you experience isn't the creation of your mind in response to the hyped atmosphere of a church service.
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
Maybe that hype is the love. I mean, I felt the rush of caffeinne through my body as well.
And I can say I LOVE coffee!
"The heavens are declaring the glory of God; and of the work of his hands the expanse is telling."PSALM 19:1.
(Romans 1:20) For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the worlds creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable;
For me, not sensational but rational, the concept of which supplies an image representing God as something ineffable, unknowable, undefinable in everything.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Christians are enjoined to "seek and serve Christ in all persons, loving their neighbors as themselves." God lives in the spaces between us. When we reach out to others in love, we are also reaching out to God in love. Since God is love, when we love those whom we physically know, we participate in God, and know God, too.
What makes you say that God is love when the OT tells us of the terrible crimes attributed to him? A loving god would not be able to contemplate flooding the world, for instance!
love
tri-polar optimist
How do you know He did not do it out of love for future generations? That you may be here to experience this thing called life.
On come on how can God be excused all the excesses in the OT? If he is God and omnipotent then of course he could have found a better way, if you believe that the mayhem in the OT was down to him, which of course I don't!
The services I attend are far from 'hyped'... they are rather reserved actually...
Hope
Princesinha
Then you have only a limited perception of what love really is.
Nor, being a finite human being confined by space and time, can you see into the future and grasp all the consequences of every action. You have a very limited perspective, which you are trying to project onto a Being with unlimited perspective. It'd be kind of like a rock being sculpted, complaining to the sculptor about the pain of the chisel, when the sculptor is lovingly using the chisel to create something beautiful out of the rock.
Hope
Princesinha
Excesses? Have you compared the God of the Israelites with some of the other contemporary "gods"? I'd say temple prostitution and child sacrifice are far more excessive than anything God ever did or commanded.
Perhaps you should be God instead since you know so much more than He does.
Smoke
Done here.
I don't doubt that people may feel genuine affection for and devotion to God or Jesus, or indeed Muhammad, Sakyamuni, Alfred the Great or Queen Victoria if they're so disposed.
I think the claims of many Christians who claim to love God are rather shaky, though, in view of the way they treat other people and in view of their own scripture:
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
Smoke
Done here.
Is that really the standard we want to go by? "Our God is the best of all the Levantine gods of three millenia ago"?
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.
Or perhaps she just knows more than those who imagine that they speak for God, or that they know who does.Perhaps you should be God instead since you know so much more than He does.