Mainstream Media

[InChrist]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Both the left wing media and the right wing can be propaganda-ish sometimes.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

But I still trust either one over many politicians.

 

[sun rise]

There is media bias on both sides as well as lying

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading? - Ad Fontes Media which includes how they got those ranking. My sources of information that I believe is in the green square from The Hill on the right to Politico etc on the left although sometimes I'll look at yellow or even orange sites.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

The Right is doing it as well. A recent thread was even recently discussing the exact opposite of this thread, of a cartoonist being censored and eventually fired a former-liberal news paper.

There is media bias on both sides as well as lying

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading? - Ad Fontes Media which includes how they got those ranking. My sources of information that I believe is in the green square from The Hill on the right to Politico etc on the left although sometimes I'll look at yellow or even orange sites.

What's behind CNN?

 

[SeekerOnThePath]

Both the left wing media and the right wing can be propaganda-ish sometimes.

Of course that's a severe understatement, lol

 

[danieldemol]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

I think bias views and censorship as compared to what? The right wing Christian fringe media that you listen to?

 

[exchemist]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

Your source for this alleged story, Big League Politics, is described by Wiki as "a far-right American media website that traffics in conspiracy theories": Big League Politics - Wikipedia

So let's have a believable source, please, before we all go off at tangents.

 

[Altfish]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

You need to understand what you are watching/reading. They all have bias one way or the other. Fox is probably the worst; in UK the newspapers are predominantly right wing (with a few exceptions)

The web is in general fake. Certainly you should check sources before believing anything.

Let's be honest if Trump hates the MSM so much, then it is probably ok.

 

[QuestioningMind]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

What does a journalist from the left-wing fringe have to do with the mainstream media? You're not one of those folks who foolishly bought into the propaganda pushed by what used to be the far-right fringe but now constitutes the Republican party that the mainstream media is nothing but a mouthpiece for the far-left fringe, are you?

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm very wary of journalists that have only checked their work against multiple sources. I much prefer to use social media outlets because much of it is created by goons and bots. If nothing else, Trump has made us all realise that information can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I'm very wary of journalists that have only checked their work against multiple sources. I much prefer to use social media outlets because much of it is created by goons and bots. If nothing else, Trump has made us all realise that information can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

Actually on the contrary, I think Trump has legitimized the otherwise stagnant left wing media - with him trying to control the info that gets to a person, if he could... he's making the media who doesn't listen into a saint.

 

[exchemist]

Actually there is a report of this in the Guardian: Glenn Greenwald resigns from the Intercept over 'editorial freedom'

It looks to me as if Greenwald thought there was something in this story about Biden's son, but the editors disagreed, presumably thinking it was most likely Russian disinformation, as the security agencies apparently suspected.

But in any case, it only seems to be about whether Biden's son tried to exploit his father's name in some way. There seems to be nothing here suggesting any underhand practice by Biden, so far as I can see.

(I do find it quite funny to see the Trumpies suddenly getting so sanctimonious about abuse of family connections, I must say. )

 

[Stevicus]

It seems that the mainstream media is more about bias views and censorship than reporting the news. What do you think?

“The bias has gotten so bad that left-wing journalist Glenn Greenwald was forced to depart from The Intercept, a media outlet he initially co-founded to defend free speech, because they censored his work critical of former vice president Joe Biden.”


Left-wing Journalist Glenn Greenwald Devastates Fake News Media and Deep State in Blistering Critiques - Big League Politics

I've never heard of Glenn Greenwald or The Intercept. Are they part of the mainstream media?

 

[Erebus]

There is definitely plenty of bias, incomplete stories or flat out fabrication going on across various media sources. You always need to treat news stories with caution and never assume you're being given the complete, unvarnished truth. Whenever possible, you should check to see if other sources have picked up the same story and compare them to see what might have been omitted or reinterpreted.

You also have to be aware that not all sources are created equal. I find there are a few websites that are worth keeping in mind:

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media This gives you a summary of where a news source's bias leans and how factual their reporting is. There are a few instances where their information is a bit out of date but overall it's a website that's worth keeping in mind. One thing they're very good it is identifying conspiracy/pseudoscience websites.

PolitiFact Assesses various statements made by politicians and determines how truthful they are. They almost exclusively cover US politics though.

Snopes.com This one touches on politics but is mainly focused on viral social media posts and urban legends. Absolutely essential for Facebook/Twitter users in my opinion.


None of those three resources are absolutely perfect but in my opinion they're still useful tools when attempting to separate fact from fiction in the news.

 

[Father Heathen]

If a political figure is corrupt and/or incompetent and a news media outlet reports on it objectively and accurately, it will still be regarded as "bias" by the political figures supporters due to its unfavorable findings, even if honest and factual. Thus it's a no win situation for journalism in that regard.

 

[Stevicus]

There is definitely plenty of bias, incomplete stories or flat out fabrication going on across various media sources. You always need to treat news stories with caution and never assume you're being given the complete, unvarnished truth. Whenever possible, you should check to see if other sources have picked up the same story and compare them to see what might have been omitted or reinterpreted.

You also have to be aware that not all sources are created equal. I find there are a few websites that are worth keeping in mind:

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media This gives you a summary of where a news source's bias leans and how factual their reporting is. There are a few instances where their information is a bit out of date but overall it's a website that's worth keeping in mind. One thing they're very good it is identifying conspiracy/pseudoscience websites.

PolitiFact Assesses various statements made by politicians and determines how truthful they are. They almost exclusively cover US politics though.

Snopes.com This one touches on politics but is mainly focused on viral social media posts and urban legends. Absolutely essential for Facebook/Twitter users in my opinion.


None of those three resources are absolutely perfect but in my opinion they're still useful tools when attempting to separate fact from fiction in the news.

I think the key thing is to utilize multiple sources wherever possible. I don't think it's a good idea to simply rely on a single source of information. It's also useful for one to be informed about the world in general.

Fake news, yellow journalism, and sloppy/incompetent reporting are really nothing new. However, with the internet and social media, there's a lot more public input and communication among the hoi polloi.

Back in the pre-internet days, I might read a news article which seems like BS, and I would usually just think to myself "What a load of BS." If I felt strongly enough about it, I might take the time to write a letter to the editor, or I might talk to friends about it. If it's important enough, other news outlets might report it or scrutinize it, but people wouldn't necessarily believe it on face value.

What seems different now is that social media has a lot of other people (shills, perhaps) who go around browbeating others to either believe or disbelieve a certain article or news source.

 

[metis]

PolitiFact's analysis concluded that of the major news t.v. networks, Fox is the least accurate with MSNBC being second, whereas PBS NewsHour is the most accurate followed by CNN.

Frankly, it seems that one should be able to pretty much tell whom the Fox watchers here at RF are because they all so often post the same heavily-politicized nonsense that Fox does.

 

[Secret Chief]

Something sensible...

How to cover Election Day and beyond

especially, perhaps this: Don’t parrot premature claims of victory. There will be a perverse incentive this year for candidates to rush to declare victory, enabling themselves to then claim irregularities or problems are the election being “stolen.” Be wary of any such declarations that arrive before results become clear, and equivocate when reporting on outlandish claims that aren’t backed up by evidence. Don’t allow candidates to inject uncertainty or cast unfounded aspersions about the legitimacy of results simply by being first out of the gate to declare victory. And don’t frame premature declarations as “both sides” disagreements—e.g., “Candidate X says he’s won, while his opponent says he hasn’t.”

 

[Left Coast]

There is media bias on both sides as well as lying

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading? - Ad Fontes Media which includes how they got those ranking. My sources of information that I believe is in the green square from The Hill on the right to Politico etc on the left although sometimes I'll look at yellow or even orange sites.

I always forget that the Christian Science Monitor is a thing.