Making sense of the Pandemic

[oldbadger]

All creeds will agree that Jesus is King. Or they will not be on the planet.

Actually, that might be a befitting end for certain kinds of Christians, locked by gravity in to this tiny planet made dirty by industrial greed, like a prison among the 300 million solar systems of this one small galaxy.
But I have studied the life and times of Jesus, and I reckon that your heaven could well be your Hell.

 

[oldbadger]

So you admit God would have to step in, but you are not sure why or what is right or wrong. OK.

Don't make up what I have written.
I am a Deist! You need to learn more about Deism, I think.

I don't think that many Christian Creeds have much of a clue about what a Theistic God would wish for, to be frank. But since I don't believe in Theism I don't have to worry.

 

[oldbadger]

Fundamentalists do seem to spend a disproportionate amount of time and energy on sex. Who is having it. How. Where. How often. And with whom and how many. As a 16 year old, I did not think about sex as much as that and I thought about it most of the time then.

Ha ha! I do like to read about fundie extremist ideas. It's like visiting Madame Tussauds and going to see the chamber of horrors. You know it's going to be shocking but you want to look anyway!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Don't make up what I have written.
I am a Deist! You need to learn more about Deism, I think.

I don't think that many Christian Creeds have much of a clue about what a Theistic God would wish for, to be frank. But since I don't believe in Theism I don't have to worry.

Isn't deism a form of theism? It is about the role of God and not a question of existence isn't it?

 

[oldbadger]

Isn't deism a form of theism? It is about the role of God and not a question of existence isn't it?

Hi...
No..... Not really.
Theism and Deism are completely opposite.

Deism believes in an uninvolved, disinterested God.
Theism believes in an involved interested God.

They are that different....

 

[dad]

What..... like the migration of Genghis Khan across Siberia/Europe? The Great War? WWII? The Cambodian genocide. Vietnam? Rwanda?
What.... every catastrophe a punishment sent by the God of fire, brimstone, wrath, and Jesus returning with the sword of retribution flicking from his mouth? And a World where Justice is dished out from a few cherry-picked verses of the OT? And in the next minute Jesus turns in to a sweet loving God who demands that children be cared for, as in looking after them after birth which many Christians don't bother with?
How do you spell theological schizophrenia?


Pity you don't bother to pay taxes for their subsistence, medicare, education...... It looks loke hypocrisy to me.

One cannot cite every bad event in history and claim it was the judgments of God.
There were times when it obviously was though. For example, the captivity of Israel in Babylon. Another example was the pestilences and plagues in ancient Egypt when God freed the slaves.
Your inability to discern between the two, combined with your Xenophobic anti bible blather are more slither than substance.

 

[dad]

Actually, that might be a befitting end for certain kinds of Christians, locked by gravity in to this tiny planet made dirty by industrial greed, like a prison among the 300 million solar systems of this one small galaxy.
But I have studied the life and times of Jesus, and I reckon that your heaven could well be your Hell.

No. We will not be locked by gravity as we will be like Jesus in new bodies. If you recall He could appear and disappear and fly up into heaven, and etc. The city we live in will be 1500 miles high. People living in mansions hundreds of miles up would hardly be thought of as being locked in by gravity either. Gabriel came and appeared before Daniel one day, and got there before Daniel opened his eyes and finished praying. The angel had come from beyond where the stars are!

 

[dad]

Don't make up what I have written.
I am a Deist! You need to learn more about Deism, I think.

I don't think that many Christian Creeds have much of a clue about what a Theistic God would wish for, to be frank. But since I don't believe in Theism I don't have to worry.

It is not that believers would not have a clue about other nonexistent gods or even real demon 'god's. The thing is we don't much care since we know the real Macoy.

 

[oldbadger]

One cannot cite every bad event in history and claim it was the judgments of God.
There were times when it obviously was though. For example, the captivity of Israel in Babylon. Another example was the pestilences and plagues in ancient Egypt when God freed the slaves.
Your inability to discern between the two, combined with your Xenophobic anti bible blather are more slither than substance.

Don't get too personal now.
I happen to think that the Bible is a pretty good historical source, if shredded of its religious extremism.

 

[oldbadger]

No. We will not be locked by gravity as we will be like Jesus in new bodies. If you recall He could appear and disappear and fly up into heaven, and etc. The city we live in will be 1500 miles high. People living in mansions hundreds of miles up would hardly be thought of as being locked in by gravity either. Gabriel came and appeared before Daniel one day, and got there before Daniel opened his eyes and finished praying. The angel had come from beyond where the stars are!

Good luck with that.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Teaching kids they should choose sexes or maybe were born the wrong sex is evil.

False. We may not know that this emergency is a judgment of God yet, but we do know that nations are ripe with wickedness. The only question is whether this is God lowering the boom now or not.

When did your God say that?

 

[oldbadger]

It is not that believers would not have a clue about other nonexistent gods or even real demon 'god's. The thing is we don't much care since we know the real Macoy.

That is the problem...... When folks begin to think that they are acting for the one true God, it causes them to think that all their thoughts and actions are righteous
History has shown that many Christians could be very very wicked, in the ways that they treated other races cultures and religions, for instance.
Christianity has reduced and reduced where I live, and I think it's reduced on the US, mainly because of fundie extremism.
There is nothing to do but watch it continue to dwindle, although I will always reserve a very kind thought for those Christians who live with love rather than with sword, retribution and hate.

 

[dad]

Don't get too personal now.
I happen to think that the Bible is a pretty good historical source, if shredded of its religious extremism.

Scripture cannot be shredded of Jesus.

 

[dad]

Good luck with that.

No luck needed.

 

[dad]

When did your God say that?

He showed us that it was man and woman that was created. He made it clear relations of a sexual nature needed to be between these only.

 

[dad]

That is the problem...... When folks begin to think that they are acting for the one true God, it causes them to think that all their thoughts and actions are righteous

Not a problem for me at all. I can see how people are supposed to act. If I see actions that do not fit Scripture, then I know it is a con job.

History has shown that many Christians could be very very wicked, in the ways that they treated other races cultures and religions, for instance.

History also shows that degenerate wicked people later consider good to be evil. So now, for example we might have some shrill declarations that preaching the gospel to those who knew it not was evil.
When it comes to wicked people pretending to have been Christian and doing evil, that is par for the course in this world. We should be able to tell the difference.

Christianity has reduced and reduced where I live, and I think it's reduced on the US, mainly because of fundie extremism.

Funny thing is it looks like the US is quite reduced now also!

 

[GoodbyeDave]

I think the OP cited wicked practices of many sorts and suggested it could have been the one that pushed it over the top. In other words, the little drop of water filled the cup to the brim.

So, let's get this clear. Your god is so enraged at people disobeying him that he starts killing people. So why isn't his targeting more efficient?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Hi...
No..... Not really.
Theism and Deism are completely opposite.

Deism believes in an uninvolved, disinterested God.
Theism believes in an involved interested God.

They are that different....

Hmmm? It does not sound like we are in any real disagreement. Perhaps my confusion here derives from my consideration of theism as the general term for belief in a god or gods. While deism is within that definition, but qualifying the nature of the god to be one that is not interested or involved with what has been created.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

That is the problem...... When folks begin to think that they are acting for the one true God, it causes them to think that all their thoughts and actions are righteous
History has shown that many Christians could be very very wicked, in the ways that they treated other races cultures and religions, for instance.
Christianity has reduced and reduced where I live, and I think it's reduced on the US, mainly because of fundie extremism.
There is nothing to do but watch it continue to dwindle, although I will always reserve a very kind thought for those Christians who live with love rather than with sword, retribution and hate.

Extremists often (always?) consider themselves right, no matter how wrong they may be. They claim to know things that they cannot. No room for doubt or facts in that circle.

 

[John53]

No. We will not be locked by gravity as we will be like Jesus in new bodies. If you recall He could appear and disappear and fly up into heaven, and etc. The city we live in will be 1500 miles high. People living in mansions hundreds of miles up would hardly be thought of as being locked in by gravity either. Gabriel came and appeared before Daniel one day, and got there before Daniel opened his eyes and finished praying. The angel had come from beyond where the stars are!

I've never seen any of this in the bible but I'm certainly no expert so please show evidence of these claims.