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Making sense of the Pandemic

dad

dad

Undefeated
John53 said:
Is this the same God of love you said is currently punishing the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions? He's a real charmer eh?
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You seem to feel that God should put up with anything and never save us. In your mind dying may be some terrible thing. For God's people of all ages though, it is a promotion to glory.
I believe that no one dies before their time. I also believe that God knows what He is doing and if judgment is needed it is for good reasons. He knows best, not the wicked.

People should fear Him in that they should fear to sink so low into wickedness that they force Him to act. Here is a bible verse that sums it up as to what attitude leaders kings and nations should have.

Jer 12:17 - But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.

If this coronavirus was not a judgment, nations should still obey. If it is a judgment, they better darn well obey. Those are the choices.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
dad said:
You seem to feel that God should put up with anything and never save us. In your mind dying may be some terrible thing. For God's people of all ages though, it is a promotion to glory.
I believe that no one dies before their time. I also believe that God knows what He is doing and if judgment is needed it is for good reasons. He knows best, not the wicked.

People should fear Him in that they should fear to sink so low into wickedness that they force Him to act. Here is a bible verse that sums it up as to what attitude leaders kings and nations should have.

Jer 12:17 - But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.

If this coronavirus was not a judgment, nations should still obey. If it is a judgment, they better darn well obey. Those are the choices.
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I believe you do not speak for any God and refuse to accept your personal agenda of trying to scare people into believing what you believe.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
dad said:
The real message in the pandemic. Sorry, you can't deal with anything but meaningless chirping.
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The real message lol... Your God is having a hissy fit over gender reassignment surgery.

Why can't you just admit you've seen an opportunity to try and scare people into believing what you believe.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
John53 said:
The real message lol... Your God is having a hissy fit over gender reassignment surgery.

Why can't you just admit you've seen an opportunity to try and scare people into believing what you believe.
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Be honest. The issue is how some recent abominable sins may have filled up the cup of iniquity so that judgment must come. Yes, abusing children by teaching them that they are nor really boys or girls is very wicked. Having them undergo procedures and propaganda is abuse and crime. Having them get physically mutilated one day with surgery is a filthy crime against God and it is offending His little ones. Killing babies is an absolute demonic abomination to God. Having men and women taught it is OK to abandon natural affections and sexual relations is wickedness.
If you want to pretend otherwise that is fine. When it comes to the point that the wicked know no shame but openly hate God and Scripture that is a pride parade to destruction and death.

So I can assume that your vote here is that the coronavirus plague is not from God and there is nothing worthy of judging. OK.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
dad said:
Be honest. The issue is how some recent abominable sins may have filled up the cup of iniquity so that judgment must come. Yes, abusing children by teaching them that they are nor really boys or girls is very wicked. Having them undergo procedures and propaganda is abuse and crime. Having them get physically mutilated one day with surgery is a filthy crime against God and it is offending His little ones. Killing babies is an absolute demonic abomination to God. Having men and women taught it is OK to abandon natural affections and sexual relations is wickedness.
If you want to pretend otherwise that is fine. When it comes to the point that the wicked know no shame but openly hate God and Scripture that is a pride parade to destruction and death.

So I can assume that your vote here is that the coronavirus plague is not from God and there is nothing worthy of judging. OK.
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It's a virus, there's even a hint in the name.

Sure killing babies is an abomination, killing anyone is but your loving God has no problem doing it according to you.

There are many crimes humanity should be punished for. What we have done to the planet we live on and forcing children to believe nonsense like you and some religions sprout, mass genocide and probably many others. I have seen no evidence of the procedures you claim are being forced on children and you failed to provide any evidence when quizzed by OldBadger.

I may continue this post later (or probably not) but at the moment our leg of lamb is ready to take out of the oven.
 
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Mock Turtle

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
KAT-KAT said:
It certainly sounds plausible, but I'm still not sure that's exactly what happened. I've been thinking about the possibility of a coverup at the biolab amidst flu-like weapon manufacturing there, since this wasn't the first wet market ever. Or maybe something in between those two ideas, like tested animals being served at the market.
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Someone else will probably post this, but anyway, it does seem to have been natural rather than man-made:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-covid-coronavirus-epidemic-natural-scientists.html
 
Mock Turtle

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Windwalker said:
I was going to say, the real reasons why we do can mainly be reduced down to greed. Over-consumption, is really, thinking about it, death by gluttony.
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I think it's more about so many not seriously thinking about issues and also thinking that what they do doesn't impact the overall picture - such as, leave it up to governments. So quite often people aren't behaving deliberately bad or with bad intent, they often just don't consider the consequences of their actions.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
dad said:
As with abortions, advocates like to look at exceptions to justify the mass murders. In the case of true medical emergencies that cannot be used as an excuse for the mass operations and procedures.

So called experts say a lot of things and children are advised to transition for their own benefit.

We could look at the actual risks of tumors here. Do you know what the risk was exactly?
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So you deceive us with false facts and bible quotes. Then you try to splice rape and murder to sex transition. Now you try to splice mass murder in to your perception of 'Why God punishes us'.

You now question a quotation about a case which you linked us to, querying the honesty of the link that you chose.

You see? This is a typical example of religious extremism which seeks to subject people, even children, to its own controls.

You mention abortion as well, which is a different subject, but since you did mention it, can I ask you....:-
What do you think about totally free medicare, education and subsistence for all minors?
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The Hammer said:
No, just the people that help those people receive the medical and therapeutic interventions they need are evil. Still ignorance IMO.
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I can acknowledge mostly any religion or faith in other folks, but if they seek to control the lawful lives of others then I class those individuals as extremists. Extremists can be very dangerous people, imo.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
dad said:
The prophesies tell us that He will have to intervene and actually take over the world and rule here it will be so bad.
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How would God do that? Could God protect, administrate, police and judge all by himself? That seems unlikely.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Evangelicalhumanist said:
Not necessarily. Presumably, you can just beat the crap out of your children until they realize that they are what YOU intend them to be. Then all is well...
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Ah yes! I forgot. Even Christian Pastors have got convictions for child abuse..... beating children. One Christian Pastor has actually written an alternative American Constitution in which people can beat their children. Thank you for reminding me.
 
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