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Matrix III

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
Did anyone ever wonder why in Matrix III the simulation collapsed after all the characters including Neo had turned into Agent Smiths (apart from the no-brainer that the movie needed an ending)? After all, they had reached a very stable state where their superegoes could all control each other to avoid another one of them going into god mode. This seems to me a very stable, orderly system, maybe not paradise in human sense, but I think machines / machine created beings might appreciate order and standardization.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
From the machine point of view, I don’t think having a bunch of Smith’s running around was very stable. Also, when Smith took over Neo, I don’t think the simulation crumbled. Rather, the takeover gave the machines access to the matrix again and they were able to do a “hard reboot,” eliminating Smith in the process.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
The simulation didn't collapse. Smith was a virus, and he was overwritten and deleted from the system by Neo. At the end, the Oracle asks the Architect if those who wanted to be freed from the simulation would be freed, and when he said yes, she asks if she has his word on that, to which her replied, "What do you think I am, human?"

If the simulation had collapsed, there would have been nothing to be freed from.

Salix,
Matix nerd
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Did anyone ever wonder why in Matrix III the simulation collapsed after all the characters including Neo had turned into Agent Smiths (apart from the no-brainer that the movie needed an ending)? After all, they had reached a very stable state where their superegoes could all control each other to avoid another one of them going into god mode. This seems to me a very stable, orderly system, maybe not paradise in human sense, but I think machines / machine created beings might appreciate order and standardization.

You mean the whole Matrix being nothing but clones of Agent Smith? Within the plot of the movie, Smith was going to threaten to expand into the Machine City as well. The Smith virus was ostensibly created by the Oracle in an all-or-nothing gambit for peace. The Architect remarked at the end "That was a very dangerous game you played."

It probably would have collapsed at some point anyway, especially if the Architect or the Deus Ex Machina had lost control over it. Their only other choice would have been to shut it down completely, which would have meant the deaths of every human still plugged in. And the folks down in Zion were about to get wiped out.

I liked the Matrix, although one thing about the premise which bothered me was how royally screwed the whole planet was when someone decided they were going to "scorch the sky." They thought it was going to stop the machines (which it obviously didn't). It was far more detrimental to human existence than it ever was for the machines.
 
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