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McCarthy has been removed as Speaker of the House.

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Did any Democrats vote to retain McCarthy as Speaker?
Why should they as he negated some of his promises to them?
The Republicans believe in Democracy and allow alternate opinions, even against the Republican status quo leadership.
The MAGA maniacs do not believe in democracy as we have repeatedly seen-- they believe in control and/or money.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The Republicans believe in Democracy...
The ongoing efforts to gerrymander electoral districts in favour of Republicans, and to make voting more difficult for demographics that tend to favour Democrats -- and this is happening in state after state, just as it did 120 years ago when Reconstruction was falling apart and the south was "engineered" with the effect that black voter registration fell from 70% to just 2% -- makes your statement totally laughable. It just took the Supreme Court 2 tries to get Alabama to draw up fair voter districts, and even then the courts drew the districts, not the Republican-led legislature.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
The reason there were not more Republicans in the current House and Senate, was election tampering via social media censorship.
MAGAs are always crying about free speech on social media, unless it's political content that explains why Republicans aren't fit for office. You're against free speech now, and blame it for why Republicans didn't attract more voters? You call opinions on social media about how bad Republicans are for America as election tampering? Well that sounds like like facism 101. Is that what far right wing disinformation is telling you these days?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
On the bright side, Congressman Matt Gaetz, who led the removal, has nominated Donald Trump to be the new speaker. That would be interesting. Do you think any Democrat would vote for Trump or will they all put on the blinders and vote as they are told?
Under GOP Conference Rules, Trump cannot serve in a GOP Leadership Position:

Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.

(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Under GOP Conference Rules, Trump cannot serve in a GOP Leadership Position:
Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted
(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.​
(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.​
(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.​

Still, would a rule change be only a Congress vote away?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Still, would a rule change be only a Congress vote away?
If Trump as Speaker goes to a vote, it would certainly be interesting if the Dems voted for him. If the GOP changes their own rules for Trump, it would undermine the GOP image as "The Party of Principles" and make them look like hypocrites. (Elephants have long noses, so they might have even more of their nose available to cut off in spite of their face.)
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
If Trump as Speaker goes to a vote, it would certainly be interesting if the Dems voted for him. If the GOP changes their own rules for Trump, it would undermine the GOP image as "The Party of Principles" and make them look like hypocrites. (Elephants have long noses, so they might have even more of their nose available to cut off in spite of their face.)

I agree that things would get interesting.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What does Obama's appointing a justics and lock step of not having a speaker to get the job of Congress done have in common
It's one event leading to another. Reps went there years ago, and a moment of serious embarassment for John McCain was saying that Reps would have blocked all nominations put forward by Hillary.
Or as the Tea Partier Richard Murdock put it, compromise means Dems yielding to Conservative ways.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
The next speaker will be a corporate-approved appointee that will push the corporate Republican agenda.
Fossil fuel controlled

- low wages
- no corporate tax
- no regulations
- climate change is fake
- Koch agenda
The new speaker matches the elitist agenda.

Newly minted House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), who won the gavel Wednesday after three prior Republican nominees failed to reach a majority, is a longtime ally of the oil industry and will be perhaps the most vocal skeptic of the scientific consensus on climate change ever to hold the speakership.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Mike Johnson's #1 priority?

Cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. No mention of lifting the income cap for paying into Social Security.


What he wants is irrelevant, since anything the House passes must meet the approval of a Democratic Senate and President. However, if Republicans should somehow win the trifecta next year, then this guy's opinions could really matter. OTOH, America will have gotten what it wished for.
 
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