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medicine, healers and shamans vs. God

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Yesterday, the nurse of the surgeon, who had cut a large polyp out of my colon, said the biopsy was benign and her doctor said he will see me in 5 years. I asked her to tell him that the prescription he had written in hope it would relax my colon was not working, and he had her call in a different prescription for me to try. I will try it, but if the past is any indication, it will not help.

One March morning in 1969, I realized I was constipated, and thus began my relationship with what medicine calls irritable bowel syndrome. There was no prior warning. I was fine, then I was tortured. By my own colon. Medicine tried, but had no answer. Sometimes I discovered a supplement or a meditation or an affirmation or an alternative electrical treatment that helped, and then my colon reacted horribly and I was terrified and quit using the supplement, and the threat stopped and my colon resumed torturing me in its accustomed way. That’s how I figured out whatever was behind it was intelligent.

I was moving deeper and deeper into alternative healing methods, which included herbs and different kinds of what was called bodywork, including body psychotherapy, which recognizes severe emotional trauma takes up residence somewhere in a person’s body and causes medical symptoms, which traditional medicine is not able to treat. A branch of medicine called “psychosomatic medicine” attempts to treat such symptoms via talk therapy. Sometimes patients get some relief, sometimes not.

In 1995, I trekked in Nepal from Pokhara up to Annapurna Base Camp and back down to another Nepal village. I was out there for two weeks. I did not see one car, truck, airplane or helicopter. I saw the most beautiful presentation Nature has to offer. I was having a steady stream of mystics experiences. Every morning after breakfast, I went to a privy and my bowel emptied completely. It was not like before the IBS began. It was much looser, but it was a good flushing out. After lunch, I went to a privy and there was a much smaller release, For 14 days it was like that. The morning after the trek ended, my bowel returned to is old torture me ways.

There would not be another reprieve.

Imagine living with that while living on the street. I imagine living with that while living with a woman. Imagine living with that while trying to raise children. Imagine living with that while trying to practice law, and before that, working for my father at Golden Flake in Birmingham, and before that, clerking for a federal judge in Birmingham, which was when it began.

Imagine me wondering many times what I did to cause it? For there was no other possibility that I could imagine. At least I know I do not have cancer in my colon. At least a magnesium supplement with ozone causes my colon to empty each day, which the colon surgeon recommended I keep doing. There is nothing pretty or easy about the supplement. It is unnatural and my colon doesn’t like it. The alternative is worse.

I do not write about this to complain. I write about it, because medicine tries but does not have all the answers and never will have all the answers. Nor will psychology or psychiatry have all the answers. Nor will body workers and therapists, of whom I knew many, and some of them trained me and I was one of them, have all the answers. Some of them told me that whatever was ailing me was beyond their range (pay grade). Nor do shamans have all the answers, because I am one, and I have known a few shamans, and I deeply respected them, but nobody can out smart God.

I quit trying to use those approaches, because I learned it was futile. I went back to living with it and doing my best to live my life as it presents itself each day. There was nothing else to do, but that. When my colon took a sudden turn for the worse last year, I finally decided it needed to be checked. If I had cancer, that needed to be dealt with. I don’t have cancer. I’m back to the old routine.

Yesterday, I told my physical therapist’s assistant that the pain in my back behind my heart, which showed up about 3 weeks ago, might have something do with my son who died. The body stores emotional trauma. I had had many visits back into that trauma over the years. The physical therapist's assistant said he would have to think about what I told him. I already had told the physical therapist.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Yesterday, the nurse of the surgeon, who had cut a large polyp out of my colon, said the biopsy was benign and her doctor said he will see me in 5 years. I asked her to tell him that the prescription he had written in hope it would relax my colon was not working, and he had her call in a different prescription for me to try. I will try it, but if the past is any indication, it will not help.

One March morning in 1969, I realized I was constipated, and thus began my relationship with what medicine calls irritable bowel syndrome. There was no prior warning. I was fine, then I was tortured. By my own colon. Medicine tried, but had no answer. Sometimes I discovered a supplement or a meditation or an affirmation or an alternative electrical treatment that helped, and then my colon reacted horribly and I was terrified and quit using the supplement, and the threat stopped and my colon resumed torturing me in its accustomed way. That’s how I figured out whatever was behind it was intelligent.

I was moving deeper and deeper into alternative healing methods, which included herbs and different kinds of what was called bodywork, including body psychotherapy, which recognizes severe emotional trauma takes up residence somewhere in a person’s body and causes medical symptoms, which traditional medicine is not able to treat. A branch of medicine called “psychosomatic medicine” attempts to treat such symptoms via talk therapy. Sometimes patients get some relief, sometimes not.

In 1995, I trekked in Nepal from Pokhara up to Annapurna Base Camp and back down to another Nepal village. I was out there for two weeks. I did not see one car, truck, airplane or helicopter. I saw the most beautiful presentation Nature has to offer. I was having a steady stream of mystics experiences. Every morning after breakfast, I went to a privy and my bowel emptied completely. It was not like before the IBS began. It was much looser, but it was a good flushing out. After lunch, I went to a privy and there was a much smaller release, For 14 days it was like that. The morning after the trek ended, my bowel returned to is old torture me ways.

There would not be another reprieve.

Imagine living with that while living on the street. I imagine living with that while living with a woman. Imagine living with that while trying to raise children. Imagine living with that while trying to practice law, and before that, working for my father at Golden Flake in Birmingham, and before that, clerking for a federal judge in Birmingham, which was when it began.

Imagine me wondering many times what I did to cause it? For there was no other possibility that I could imagine. At least I know I do not have cancer in my colon. At least a magnesium supplement with ozone causes my colon to empty each day, which the colon surgeon recommended I keep doing. There is nothing pretty or easy about the supplement. It is unnatural and my colon doesn’t like it. The alternative is worse.

I do not write about this to complain. I write about it, because medicine tries but does not have all the answers and never will have all the answers. Nor will psychology or psychiatry have all the answers. Nor will body workers and therapists, of whom I knew many, and some of them trained me and I was one of them, have all the answers. Some of them told me that whatever was ailing me was beyond their range (pay grade). Nor do shamans have all the answers, because I am one, and I have known a few shamans, and I deeply respected them, but nobody can out smart God.

I quit trying to use those approaches, because I learned it was futile. I went back to living with it and doing my best to live my life as it presents itself each day. There was nothing else to do, but that. When my colon took a sudden turn for the worse last year, I finally decided it needed to be checked. If I had cancer, that needed to be dealt with. I don’t have cancer. I’m back to the old routine.

Yesterday, I told my physical therapist’s assistant that the pain in my back behind my heart, which showed up about 3 weeks ago, might have something do with my son who died. The body stores emotional trauma. I had had many visits back into that trauma over the years. The physical therapist's assistant said he would have to think about what I told him. I already had told the physical therapist.
Thank you for sharing

I have been challenged by my bowels too.

1 years ago I could not go to the toilet for 10 days sometimes. 1 year ago I ended up in hospital for a different issue, for 10 days in hospital, having infusion of minerals and food, but not once I passed stools. The day before they released me, they gave me a glass to drink with a powder added. Next day finally I passed stools

Quite telling to me, that a big hospital with 4 doctors examining me, do not address obstipation. Any doctor should know that disease starts usually when stools are not passed, but this proves that doctors still have little knowledge about curing (or they know, but don't tell us).

I have no faith in doctors, when it comes to healing, they usually focus on symptom relief, not on cure, obviously and understandably to me though, but has nothing to do with compassion nor empathy.

I tried for decades to cure it by diet. I did some extreme diet that solved my obstipation, but they were a bit too extreme to do daily. And I think the causes of IBS can be many and complex, so, probably it's a tough one to solve, once you've got IBS or polyps, Crohn's or all 3 like I had.

Now finally I really got it going, thrice a day yesterday. My hope is up, but it might be just a coincidental once in a lifetime normal experience. Your story does seem to be a confirmation that I might be on the right track so to speak ... I really hope so, after ca. 40 years searching for a solution I almost gave up. Now I do have hope again. Thanks again for sharing.

Love, Peace and Blessings
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Thank you for sharing

I have been challenged by my bowels too.

1 years ago I could not go to the toilet for 10 days sometimes. 1 year ago I ended up in hospital for a different issue, for 10 days in hospital, having infusion of minerals and food, but not once I passed stools. The day before they released me, they gave me a glass to drink with a powder added. Next day finally I passed stools

Quite telling to me, that a big hospital with 4 doctors examining me, do not address obstipation. Any doctor should know that disease starts usually when stools are not passed, but this proves that doctors still have little knowledge about curing (or they know, but don't tell us).

I have no faith in doctors, when it comes to healing, they usually focus on symptom relief, not on cure, obviously and understandably to me though, but has nothing to do with compassion nor empathy.

I tried for decades to cure it by diet. I did some extreme diet that solved my obstipation, but they were a bit too extreme to do daily. And I think the causes of IBS can be many and complex, so, probably it's a tough one to solve, once you've got IBS or polyps, Crohn's or all 3 like I had.

Now finally I really got it going, thrice a day yesterday. My hope is up, but it might be just a coincidental once in a lifetime normal experience. Your story does seem to be a confirmation that I might be on the right track so to speak ... I really hope so, after ca. 40 years searching for a solution I almost gave up. Now I do have hope again. Thanks again for sharing.

Love, Peace and Blessings
Thanks, I hope your condition improves.
 
Hello, Hope you all are well! I want to ask you how can long-term emotional trauma affect the body, especially when dealing with conditions like IBS. Could alternative healing methods or psychotherapy help with the physical symptoms?
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Hello, Hope you all are well! I want to ask you how can long-term emotional trauma affect the body, especially when dealing with conditions like IBS. Could alternative healing methods or psychotherapy help with the physical symptoms?

Well is in the eye of the beholder. Every person, no exceptions, stores emotional trauma in the body. This is well known to old timey osteopaths, chiropractors and psychosomatic psychologists and psychiatrists, as well as to body workers such as Rolfers, craniosacral practitioners, Hakmoi psychotherapists and other varieties of bodyworkers, including many but not all massage therapists. I was trained in massage, Hakomi and crainosacral therapy, which requires being a practice client and undergoing the psychosomatic aspects of those disciplines. I experienced in myself unimaginable emotional releases during therapy sessions, as did some of my clients. Some of my clients were mental health practitioners, including a psychiatrist, Jungian analyst, psychological and addiction therapists. I have not done that work for a long time, and am not trying to solicit you or any one who reads my reply to you. Besides the above named disciplines, I also was worked on by shamans, Reki, hands of light and Rosen practitioners. I spent a great deal of money trying to get to feeling better in that way, and while nothing they did helped my IBS, they helped release plenty of other stuff my body was holding. I tried various forms of meditation, yoga, prayer, being saved by Jesus, churchs, etc., and none of that helped my IBS. As I wrote, a few times I found something that did help the IBS until something in my body reacted so violently and terrifyingly that I discontinued what I was using and the threat ended and left me where I was before I attempted to override it. I came to understand the cause of my IBS was spiritual and somehow I had caused it, and there was nothing I or anyone else could do about it, because it was in God's hands. I was born into Christendom and I always believed God existed, and because of my countless mystical experiences, I know God exists, and angels and Lucifer and demons exist, and religion, mental health and alternative healing disciplines are woefully out of their depth in that terrain. I don't care if someone doesn't want to use the words God and Lucifer, which exist regardless of what they are called or what people believe. My suggestion to IBS, or any disease of body, emotions, mind and/or soul, is they might try to find a real shaman trained in the old ways, and maybe that shaman can help their IBS or whatever is bothering them. Or, they simply ask God for help, with no strings attached, and be prepared for their lives to change dramatically, if God or angels respond, because there is no telling how God will respond, or even if God will respond. As for me, for a couple of weeks, my IBS seems somewhat easier on me, and it seems to have to do with my asking God once again for help and a woman coming into my life, who herself gave up on churches, but not on God, and she is writing a book that is causing a great deal of awful stuff to come up out of her entire being, including her physical body, and her perspectives of herself and everything else are changing. I have seen much the same happen to a few other people, and they did not attend church or belong to a religion. God is in everything and is unfathomable even to religions, which can be helpfully and can become dead end traps.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Hello, Hope you all are well! I want to ask you how can long-term emotional trauma affect the body, especially when dealing with conditions like IBS. Could alternative healing methods or psychotherapy help with the physical symptoms?

Well is in the eye of the beholder. Every person, no exceptions, stores emotional trauma in the body. This is well known to old timey osteopaths, chiropractors and psychosomatic psychologists and psychiatrists, as well as to body workers such as Rolfers, craniosacral practitioners, Hakmoi psychotherapists and other varieties of bodyworkers, including many but not all massage therapists. I was trained in massage, Hakomi and crainosacral therapy, which requires being a practice client and undergoing the psychosomatic aspects of those disciplines. I experienced in myself unimaginable emotional releases during therapy sessions, as did some of my clients. Some of my clients were mental health practitioners, including a psychiatrist, Jungian analyst, psychological and addiction therapists. I have not done that work for a long time, and am not trying to solicit you or any one who reads my reply to you. Besides the above named disciplines, I also was worked on by shamans, Reki, hands of light and Rosen practitioners. I spent a great deal of money trying to get to feeling better in that way, and while nothing they did helped my IBS, they helped release plenty of other stuff my body was holding. I tried various forms of meditation, yoga, prayer, being saved by Jesus, churchs, etc., and none of that helped my IBS. As I wrote, a few times I found something that did help the IBS until something in my body reacted so violently and terrifyingly that I discontinued what I was using and the threat ended and left me where I was before I attempted to override it. I came to understand the cause of my IBS was spiritual and somehow I had caused it, and there was nothing I or anyone else could do about it, because it was in God's hands. I was born into Christendom and I always believed God existed, and because of my countless mystical experiences, I know God exists, and angels and Lucifer and demons exist, and religion, mental health and alternative healing disciplines are woefully out of their depth in that terrain. I don't care if someone doesn't want to use the words God and Lucifer, which exist regardless of what they are called or what people believe. My suggestion to IBS, or any disease of body, emotions, mind and/or soul, is they might try to find a real shaman trained in the old ways, and maybe that shaman can help their IBS or whatever is bothering them. Or, they simply ask God for help, with no strings attached, and be prepared for their lives to change dramatically, if God or angels respond, because there is no telling how God will respond, or even if God will respond. As for me, for a couple of weeks, my IBS seems somewhat easier on me, and it seems to have to do with my asking God once again for help and a woman coming into my life, who herself gave up on churches, but not on God, and she is writing a book that is causing a great deal of awful stuff to come up out of her entire being, including her physical body, and her perspectives of herself and everything else are changing. I have seen much the same happen to a few other people, and they did not attend church or belong to a religion. God is in everything and is unfathomable even to religions, which can be helpfully and can become dead end traps.
I like your above story. Maybe that's the good part of IBS, I also know that God exists; Lucifer I have never seen, so that I don't know. And I also tried many therapies. Lots of emotions were released when doing rolfing, and also some bitter herbs therapy from South America worked miracles. But still the IBS, Crohn and polyps were not cured by these therapies.

In my case, IBS + Crohn were caused by immense overeating when I was young (ca. 5000 kcal/day). Overeating caused constipation, diabetes, and no surprise all the troubles that followed.

Since I reduced kcal, salt, protein and no more fried, oil, milkproducts, all got much better. Once I did 50 days only watermelon from 14h till 20h, and that really took care of my intestinal problems (once a week stools, became 3 times a day, perfect stools). But alas, I still had my desires to eat other foods, so troubles started returning. But gradually, I get better in eating very pure, satwic food, and I have good hopes, that soon the intestinal problems might be solved.

Most difficult thing was to let go of all the foods that I liked so much, and just stick to plain rice and some fruits and vegetables and sunflower seeds. No more milk products, animal products, oil, and very little salt. From being a 5000 kcal eater, downto less than 2000 kcal took me a few decades. But that really helped a lot

Still working on it, but at least the pain is mostly gone now, probably God's Grace.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
I like your above story. Maybe that's the good part of IBS, I also know that God exists; Lucifer I have never seen, so that I don't know. And I also tried many therapies. Lots of emotions were released when doing rolfing, and also some bitter herbs therapy from South America worked miracles. But still the IBS, Crohn and polyps were not cured by these therapies.

In my case, IBS + Crohn were caused by immense overeating when I was young (ca. 5000 kcal/day). Overeating caused constipation, diabetes, and no surprise all the troubles that followed.

Since I reduced kcal, salt, protein and no more fried, oil, milkproducts, all got much better. Once I did 50 days only watermelon from 14h till 20h, and that really took care of my intestinal problems (once a week stools, became 3 times a day, perfect stools). But alas, I still had my desires to eat other foods, so troubles started returning. But gradually, I get better in eating very pure, satwic food, and I have good hopes, that soon the intestinal problems might be solved.

Most difficult thing was to let go of all the foods that I liked so much, and just stick to plain rice and some fruits and vegetables and sunflower seeds. No more milk products, animal products, oil, and very little salt. From being a 5000 kcal eater, downto less than 2000 kcal took me a few decades. But that really helped a lot

Still working on it, but at least the pain is mostly gone now, probably God's Grace.
Glad you are feeling better. I imagine a Hakomi therapist might wonder what in you is starving and it shows up in you feeling compelled to overeat, and the therapist might ask you to get quiet and close your eyes and ask that part of you to show you where is hangs out in your body, and if you feel it, ask it to tell you about itself and what it needs, and you might come unglued emotionally and cry and heave a lot. I think the same approach can be done simply by asking God, or an angel, to take you through that “meditation”, ,and you keep doing it until it has been mined out. If you use the second method, you might end up in a new life, in which you are in direct communion with something a lot bigger and smarter than yourself, which leads to it steering you in entirely different directions and your thinking changes and your behavior changes and you become someone else people close to you might not recognize or be entirely comfortable with.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Glad you are feeling better. I imagine a Hakomi therapist might wonder what in you is starving and it shows up in you feeling compelled to overeat, and the therapist might ask you to get quiet and close your eyes and ask that part of you to show you where is hangs out in your body, and if you feel it, ask it to tell you about itself and what it needs, and you might come unglued emotionally and cry and heave a lot. I think the same approach can be done simply by asking God, or an angel, to take you through that “meditation”, ,and you keep doing it until it has been mined out. If you use the second method, you might end up in a new life, in which you are in direct communion with something a lot bigger and smarter than yourself, which leads to it steering you in entirely different directions and your thinking changes and your behavior changes and you become someone else people close to you might not recognize or be entirely comfortable with.
Thank you for your reply

I know where it all comes from. Some very deep traumas, which gradually get solved ... from 100% I think I'm now down to 40% still to untangle. No hurry no worry.

The good thing about all of this is, that I am already in direct communion with something a lot bigger and smarter than my ego.

And I am confident all will work out fine
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Thank you for your reply

I know where it all comes from. Some very deep traumas, which gradually get solved ... from 100% I think I'm now down to 40% still to untangle. No hurry no worry.

The good thing about all of this is, that I am already in direct communion with something a lot bigger and smarter than my ego.

And I am confident all will work out fine
Good for you, and I hope you continue to mend and grow.
 
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