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Medieval Questions

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm planning my third year dissertation on a topic about Medieval Christianity. I can choose any topic I'd like.

I'd like you guys to help in coming up with some good questions to consider throughout.

Do you have any inquiries about anything to do with Christianity in the Medieval West? Anything at all; it can be as broad as you like, or as narrow.

@Augustus @Saint Frankenstein @Regiomontanus @Sand Dancer @Debater Slayer @anna.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
All my questions have to do with basically the Reformation. Like, for instance, how on earth did Martin Luther become so popular when so many of his ideas were heretical? What was up with Henry VIII and all that? How wicked was the Church in general? That kind of thing.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
All my questions have to do with basically the Reformation. Like, for instance, how on earth did Martin Luther become so popular when so many of his ideas were heretical? What was up with Henry VIII and all that? How wicked was the Church in general? That kind of thing.
This is not Medieval, but thanks :)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
How did the view of psychology in that era influence the willingness of people to sacrifice to build churches and monasteries?

How were people who had spiritual experiences, especially women, treated in that era?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well, describe what you believe medieval to be. I personally believe it to be from about 1000 to about 1600 ad but you do you.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Do you have any inquiries about anything to do with Christianity in the Medieval West? Anything at all; it can be as broad as you like, or as narrow.
Yeah - Charlemagne! What's your estimation of him, especially considering the Massacre of Verden. Do you think his ruthlessness is outweighed by his achievements?
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, describe what you believe medieval to be. I personally believe it to be from about 1000 to about 1600 ad but you do you.
The Mediaeval Period is usually described by scholars at around 500 to 1500. 1500 to 1700 is the Early Modern Period :)
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The Mediaeval Period is usually described by scholars at around 500 to 1500. 1500 to 1700 is the Early Modern Period :)
OK whatever you say. It's your paper, not mine. Surely the anger at the Church predated 1500. Why was it such fertile ground? What abuses did the Church take part in?
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
OK whatever you say. It's your paper, not mine. Surely the anger at the Church predated 1500. Why was it such fertile ground? What abuses did the Church take part in?
Respectfully, this isn't my opinion. It's the opinion of scholars who study this period. As a lifelong Medievalist it's the basic premise that your studies don't go beyond 1500, because this is the Early Modern Period. This is perhaps not as well understood outside of historical circles.

The abuses were severalfold:

- The monasteries were a rich landowning class that came to be seen as ivory tower dwellers. They were meant to be ascetic but often ended up fat, rich and entitled. They would not fight in wars and so proved a liability in an age where battles were constant. They were also centres of what today would effectively be money-laundering and nepotism.

- The clergy were vastly undereducated. Some could barely read and sing Latin, nor explain Christianity well enough to the layman. They were also ordained often through nepotism and people became bishops on the basis of closeness to the King or Duke etc. rather than on merit. One bishop had to have his vows of consecration read to him because he couldn't read them himself, for instance, which ended up as a huge embarrassment.

- There were very few sermons in churches because technically only bishops were meant to give them, and they couldn't be bothered; didn't like leaving the city to visit rural churches and speak to rural people.

- The church was often seen as overtaking the power of the monarch in an unfair balance. The papacy famously hated temporal power and tried to strip it down as much as possible. Naturally this disrupted entire systems of government.

- Hierarchy in who-gets-communion-first and who-kisses-the-pax-first in the Mass. Rampant classism in the church.

You can find a lot of this in the wonderful book 'Going to Church in Mediaeval England' by Nicholas Orme. It's well worth a read.

I say all this as an Anglican with strong Catholic sympathies.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Respectfully, this isn't my opinion. It's the opinion of scholars who study this period. As a lifelong Medievalist it's the basic premise that your studies don't go beyond 1500, because this is the Early Modern Period. This is perhaps not as well understood outside of historical circles.

The abuses were severalfold:

- The monasteries were a rich landowning class that came to be seen as ivory tower dwellers. They were meant to be ascetic but often ended up fat, rich and entitled. They would not fight in wars and so proved a liability in an age where battles were constant. They were also centres of what today would effectively be money-laundering and nepotism.

- The clergy were vastly undereducated. Some could barely read and sing Latin, nor explain Christianity well enough to the layman. They were also ordained often through nepotism and people became bishops on the basis of closeness to the King or Duke etc. rather than on merit. One bishop had to have his vows of consecration read to him because he couldn't read them himself, for instance, which ended up as a huge embarrassment.

- There were very few sermons in churches because technically only bishops were meant to give them, and they couldn't be bothered; didn't like leaving the city to visit rural churches and speak to rural people.

- The church was often seen as overtaking the power of the monarch in an unfair balance. The papacy famously hated temporal power and tried to strip it down as much as possible. Naturally this disrupted entire systems of government.

- Hierarchy in who-gets-communion-first and who-kisses-the-pax-first in the Mass. Rampant classism in the church.

You can find a lot of this in the wonderful book 'Going to Church in Mediaeval England' by Nicholas Orme. It's well worth a read.

I say all this as an Anglican with strong Catholic sympathies.
Anyway, like I said, the anger building toward the Church definitely predated 1500. I think it would be an interesting paper but maybe you feel otherwise, who knows. You just asked for ideas and questions and I gave you mine. I will check out that book, by the way! Thank you!
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
One thing that always strikes me about medieval period is how frequent no or reduced labor holidays and festivals were compared to modern day. Any obscure holidays you think are interesting?

Also just about any cultural anthropology and I assume it's overlap in theology loves its ties to culinary history. Any relationships of the church to food other than your usual bread fish and wine you think is interesting?

How about tge church's involvement in specific disasters like plague or fire?

Lastly, I know early Tudor church involvement with capitalism changed a lot of the landscape, with church owned and rented mills, ovens, water wheels, etc, put church and business closer than it had been in the past. Anything you know and think is interesting about that subject?

Hope that sparks something fun. :)
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
I'm planning my third year dissertation on a topic about Medieval Christianity. I can choose any topic I'd like.

I'd like you guys to help in coming up with some good questions to consider throughout.

Do you have any inquiries about anything to do with Christianity in the Medieval West? Anything at all; it can be as broad as you like, or as narrow.

@Augustus @Saint Frankenstein @Regiomontanus @Sand Dancer @Debater Slayer @anna.

I have a few good ideas...let me get back to you in a day or two. I will be in the deep woods tomorrow, thanks for the question to ponder. There is a very rich universe of potential topics here. My first instinct would be to suggest an investigation (being very vague right now on the focus) of the influence (on medieval Christianity) from the Eastern Churches of late antiquity.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
The period at the end of the first Millenium is pretty interesting in terms of the parallels (or lack thereof) with Christian beliefs around the year 2000.
There seems like there are two 'sides' to this, with one suggesting there was an explosion of apocryphal beliefs at the end of the millenium, and the other suggesting that there wasn't any great increase over the 'normal' apocryphal beliefs of the times, with the various world events of the day being more important than the (disputed) calendar dates.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Something I find interesting - that I only have a very cursory knowledge of through study of philosophy and Pagan religions - is the tremendous debt Western intellectualism owes to Christianity just in general, but especially in the Medieval period that is stereotypically thought of as "dark" on that front. Given the general failure of modern intellectuals to understand this debt owed, it would be very interesting to trace the contributions of Medieval Christianity to philosophy, literacy, education, and early science. It's probably been done, but the story isn't getting told enough.

Also too, how it contributed to the preservation of pre-Christian storytelling. For Druidry in particular, a lot of the Irish and Welsh tales never would've been preserved without Medieval Christian scribes and while the compilation of these manuscripts was not exactly impartial and unadulterated, we'd have nothing if not for their efforts to write down tales from what was a fundamentally oral culture.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
I'm planning my third year dissertation on a topic about Medieval Christianity. I can choose any topic I'd like.

I'd like you guys to help in coming up with some good questions to consider throughout.

Do you have any inquiries about anything to do with Christianity in the Medieval West? Anything at all; it can be as broad as you like, or as narrow.

@Augustus @Saint Frankenstein @Regiomontanus @Sand Dancer @Debater Slayer @anna.

Thanks for asking, but you're the expert here!

1. I had a chance to see the Book of Kells last year at Trinity College, have you done much study of the history of illustrated manuscripts?

2. Wayside shrines, wonderful to come across them even today, even though many were destroyed in the Reformation. An individualized expression of and invitation to faith across centuries of random human encounters.

3. The Camino de Santiago, from so many originating countries, ending in Spain. The stories of the pilgrims, even to today.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
This is not Medieval, but thanks :)
True, but Luther had precursors, the Albingensians, the Stedinger and the Hussites. Even before those, there were the Rani; not heretics, but the last pagan temple in Europe.
The medieval ages were not as RCC dominated as many believe. We know of the above because of the brutal treatment they received, but there must have always been some sort of heresy lingering that only broke out into open conflict on rare occasions.
Heretics of the Middle Ages (beyond the famous ones) would be an interesting research project.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This is not Medieval, but thanks :)
What definition of Medieval are you using?

Do Aquinas and the Schoolmen count? Those were stirring times, with Peter Abelard and his unfortunate misadventure, and that so-and-so Bernard of Clairvaux, and the school of reason v the school of sentiment &c, You can even fit Will'm of Occam in there (as a Good Guy).
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
What definition of Medieval are you using?
Answered in post #8.
Do Aquinas and the Schoolmen count? Those were stirring times, with Peter Abelard and his unfortunate misadventure, and that so-and-so Bernard of Clairvaux, and the school of reason v the school of sentiment &c, You can even fit Will'm of Occam in there (as a Good Guy).
Depends on if you see the Empire as the good guys, or the rebels.

Occam and Aquinas had the potential to be on the rebels' side, but they got assimilated. It would be an interesting question to look in why and how that happened - but more so for philosophers and church historians, less so for historians.
 
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