Michelle Obama in Kamala-zoo, MI

[Twilight Hue]

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Oh I forgot your all wound up. I'll help you calm down.

Nappy time for Mr cranky.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What are you on about?



Can you describe how you think Trump did a good job? "Better than a dead in the water zombie" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

Trump is a lazy, racist, authoritarian fool. Even most Republicans I talk to don't try to make him out to be anything else. All the arguments I hear for him boil down to one of these:

- he's a useful fool who will do a few things they think will have long-term value (while messing up most other things),

- he's awful, but not as bad as the caricature of his opponent that they've been misled into thinking is real, or

- they're so opposed to "big government" that they want to burn the whole thing down, so they see presidential incompetence as a feature instead of a bug.

If you really think that "Trump was and will be a good president," then I'm pretty sure you're the first person I've ever heard take this position.

Watch 60 minutes among others and you tell me how much better Harris is for president.

 

[McBell]

Oh I forgot your all wound up. I'll help you calm down.

Nappy time for Mr cranky.

Bless your little heart.
You try so hard...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Watch 60 minutes among others and you tell me how much better Harris is for president.

See? Here it is again. You can't - or won't - say why you think Trump did a good job; you can only point to someone you think is awful and claim that he'd be better.

Do you understand the difference?

 

[F1fan]

um...
He did not illegally overturn an election?

The funny thing is that pence was just following the tradition and law. That he is applauded for not being criminal is so telling about Trump and MAGA. In essence MAGA is a criminal organization that can't be allowed to take power. Even @Twilight Hue can't explain why he wants a criminal to be president. All he can do is say false things about democrats as if we are all MAGAs too. He might as well claim the Tooth Fairy exists. The inability for any of the forum MAGAs to create a truthful argument in favor of Trump suggests they know he's unfit, too. But the criminal candidate has been so successful in dividing the nation's citizens that MAGA is an emotional response, not a reasoned conclusion.

MAGA is a national sickness and I'm not sure there's a solution. It will come down to leadership valuing ethics and virtues, and standing up to citizens who want to be racist, divisionist, violent, misinformed, angry, and exclusive.

 

[Twilight Hue]

See? Here it is again. You can't - or won't - say why you think Trump did a good job; you can only point to someone you think is awful and claim that he'd be better.

Do you understand the difference?

Ok

Trumps border policy was effective.

Trumps tax cuts helped everyone.

Trump had no wars during his watch.

Tell me if Harris and Biden did better. Hint: they didn't do better.

 

[Pogo]

What are you on about?



Can you describe how you think Trump did a good job? "Better than a dead in the water zombie" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

Trump is a lazy, racist, authoritarian fool. Even most Republicans I talk to don't try to make him out to be anything else. All the arguments I hear for him boil down to one of these:

- he's a useful fool who will do a few things they think will have long-term value (while messing up most other things),

- he's awful, but not as bad as the caricature of his opponent that they've been misled into thinking is real, or

- they're so opposed to "big government" that they want to burn the whole thing down, so they see presidential incompetence as a feature instead of a bug.

If you really think that "Trump was and will be a good president," then I'm pretty sure you're the first person I've ever heard take this position.

It is true, you cannot find a positive reasoned argument for Trump to be president, it is all about how everything is wrong or how his grandiose statements will benefit an individual. There is no actual vision or plan for the future other than retribution.

 

[Regiomontanus]

It appears that your opinion is not really "humble" at all. In fact, it seems quite the opposite.

I am sure that makes sense to you.

 

[metis]

I sincerely wish that every RF member would find a YouTube recording of former First Lady Michelle Obama's speech at a rally in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Stirring and -- in my personal view -- immensely important and compelling. Her's is the very best exposition of the plight faced by women facing gynecological medical crises I've ever heard. Stunningly good, I say!

I've just heard it, and now headed into Kamala's speech, but it's a PBS live-feed which I won't link because it probably won't be available once it's over. But I'm certain there will be links easy to find on YouTube.

Yep, I watched it, and I think they both were great.

As a side, my undergrad work was at WMU, and K-College is right next to it, and students can get credits in each. I visit it every summer, and I'll be 80 in March.