Altfish
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A good opposition is essential.
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Michelle Obama's DNC speech
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Whateverist
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Of course. Because there will always be disagreement and need/wants can clash. But if you have some base line regard for the entire electorate along with fair elections and peaceful transfer of power, we would be much better off.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Why not come together on issues that have more than 60% support from the electorate?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't know what she dealt with and neither do you. All I know is that SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID, which is "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country." I guess she wasn't proud of her country at any other time. I think that's sad and very telling.
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You reminded me to DO SOMETHING MORE. This time because of the negativity in this thread, rather than another one time donation, your comments and that of others in this thread caused me to make a weekly donation instead. As Michelle Obama said
Our fate is in our hands.
In 77 days, we have the power to turn our country away from the fear, division, and smallness of the past.
We have the power to marry our hope with our action.
We have the power to pay forward the love, sweat, and sacrifice of our mothers and fathers and all those who came before us.
Let us keep moving our country forward and go higher — yes, higher — than we’ve ever gone before…
As we elect the next President and Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz!
You've never ever said anything dumb?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Guess what? Nothing but cliches. The same crap that is said in every election.
Get real.
Whateverist
Active Member
Good point. It seems equivalent to Wolz's ambiguous description of the kinds of guns he wanted to see banned. I have to believe Michele O'Bama was proud of our country when we elected her husband. I would imagine it was in relation to how we all felt when Trump was in office which evoked the contrast which she expressed badly.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I'm not Michelle Obama on the campaign trail.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
The desperation to find anything to justify not supporting "not Trump" is getting ridiculous.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You think so but time will tell, I guess.
Are you talking to yourself? Are you talking to yourself while implying other people here are nuts? It seems that is what you are doing.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Are some people here leftists?
Cite where Trump said the same crap cliches. Seriously. Prove me wrong.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yes. Leftist does not mean liberal.
"left" typically refers to communists, socialists, social democrats and liberals.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm talking about the same crap we hear every election , moving the country forward, making us better, stronger, blah blah blah blah blah......
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Hope and change. You left those out.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
True but of course the Hope never changed, and the change (whatever that is supposed to mean), is still being hoped for!