Mike Johnson, a staunch Louisiana conservative, is elected House Speaker

[Revoltingest]

I actually had to google images to find
what you were finding yucky.

I've only eaten a much larger kind, which
is prepared as only the five longitudinal
muscles, each about the size of a pencil.

Nothing in appearance, taste or texture
would be anything but a rare pleasure. Except
for someone with, you know, issues.

Like me. If you tried to get me to eat meat.

I've never had that kind prepared that way.
They were just globs of gelatinous horror.

 

[Father Heathen]

Does America have any staunch leftists?

By global standards, dems are center right. To U.S. conservatives, anything to the left of Mussolini is "socialist/communist".

 

[Father Heathen]

Only when described by haters.

His record speaks for itself.

 

[Revoltingest]

By global standards, dems are center right. To U.S. conservatives, anything to the left of Mussolini is "socialist/communist".

You make them sound reasonable.
Is that your intent?

 

[Father Heathen]

You make them sound reasonable.
Is that your intent?

Who? Dems? Yes, when compared to the alternative.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

A more accurate description is a homophobic, sexist, insurrectionist theocrat.

Or, perhaps, a polished homophobic, sexist, insurrectionist theocrat, and one who was unanimously embraced by the Republicans in the House. Perhaps this clarity will inform the next election.

 

[Revoltingest]

Who? Dems? Yes, when compared to the alternative.

Your post was about conservatives.

 

[Father Heathen]

Your post was about conservatives.

Calling anything or anyone to their left "socialist" or "communist" is far from reasonable.

 

[Revoltingest]

Calling anything or anyone to their left "socialist" or "communist" is far from reasonable.

I think I see what you're up to.
But since Mussolini was indeed a socialist,
to be left of him would be socialist.
Authoritarian government & a command
economy is as left as one can possibly get.

Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Revoltingest]

Calling anything or anyone to their left "socialist" or "communist" is far from reasonable.

Those Gravel & Williamson characters look interesting.
Gravel is dead, but Williamson is still alive...albeit a year older than even I am.

 

[Father Heathen]

Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But if you insist, just swap him out with any far-right figure that works.

 

[Father Heathen]

How new House Speaker Mike Johnson spent years fighting against gay rights

New House Speaker Mike Johnson spent years building his career and profile by denouncing gay people and fighting against gay rights, which he staunchly opposes

abcnews.go.com

Election denier, climate skeptic, anti-abortion: seven beliefs of new US House speaker Mike Johnson

The relatively little-known Louisiana Republican has been thrust into the spotlight and the attention has fallen on his extreme beliefs

www.theguardian.com

Here’s where Speaker Mike Johnson stands on the issues

He’s packed a lot in during four terms.

www.politico.com

He, like the rest of the republican party, hates freedom, rights, equality, science, and democracy. They'll be this country's undoing.

 

[Revoltingest]

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But if you insist, just swap him out with any far-right figure that works.

I don't buy into this right = left stuff.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't buy into this right = left stuff.

Eh? What do you mean by "right = left"?

 

[Revoltingest]

Eh? What do you mean by "right = left"?

You posted...
"....just swap him out with any far-right figure that works."
Left (socialist) & right (capitalist) aren't interchangeable.
Both can be authoritarian.
But only left is inexorably so.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Nobody is proposing any such things. **mod edit**

Mike Johnson has defended doing so before:

“States have many legitimate grounds to proscribe same-sex deviate sexual intercourse.”

kfile

Clipping found in The Times published in Shreveport, Louisiana on 7/8/2003. kfile

www.newspapers.com

 

[metis]

Mussolini was a socialist but then "converted" to fascism.

 

[Father Heathen]

You posted...
"....just swap him out with any far-right figure that works."
Left (socialist) & right (capitalist) aren't interchangeable.
Both can be authoritarian.
But only left is inexorably so.

I also posted...
"To U.S. conservatives, anything to the left of Mussolini is "socialist/communist", going by the general consensus that fascism is far-right. You disagree. That's fine, so I suggested swapping him out with someone you believe is. Of course social and capitalists aren't interchangeable, and of course both can be authoritarian, but that had nothing to do with my original statement.
To explain my point, I was referring to conservatives' tendency to call things socialist and communist that are nowhere near that corner of the political spectrum.

 

[Revoltingest]

I also posted...
"To U.S. conservatives, anything to the left of Mussolini is "socialist/communist", going by the general consensus that fascism is far-right. You disagree.

There's your problem.
Socialist fascism is far left, eg, PRC, USSR, NK, Cuba, Khmer Rouge.

 

[Father Heathen]

There's your problem.
Socialist fascism is far left, eg, PRC, USSR, NK, Cuba, Khmer Rouge.

Yes, you've established that you believe that fascism is left, which - again - is why I suggested that you simply swap him out with someone that you do believe is far-right.