Milo Yiannopoulos = transphobic, homophobic pig!

[Saint Frankenstein]

If it makes you feel better, you were the first person I thought of upon hearing about all this. I just have a strange feeling that Milo will weather this storm. His Facebook retraction was fairly straightforward and unlikely to tick off many. If anyone is still interested in asking him to come by and chat is the real question. Then again, if he is very careful (not likely) and very clever (chances are very low) he could turn this around and expose the seamy underbelly of the gay community that doesn't really want to talk about this particular topic. He is such an attention whore, I wouldn't put it past him.

There really isn't much to "expose", though. There's gay men who have sex with underage boys just like there's straight men who have sex with underage girls. It's not that shocking. But to present it as some sort of rite of passage that's typical for gay men is another thing entirely.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It was great to hear the audience cheering, and Wilmore and Maher burn that piece of ****.

So Milo was on Bill Maher's show (I never liked Maher in the first place, so I'm not surprised that his stupid self basically had a backslapping good time with Milo) and spread a bunch of hate and nonsense about trans people and gays.

Actually, Maher regularly has gay people on his show (such as Wilmore, who somewhat of a regular) and he's had trans-people on his show with no problems. And Maher did tell Milo to quit the ****, and pointing out "that guy has done **** so you can ****ing live." Maher seems way more friendly with Ann Coulture.

 

[suncowiam]

That certainly may be the episode that ends Milo's career as the affable troll. He has already been dis-invited to speak at CPAC and has also had his book deal squashed. I guess it depends how stridently he comes out against his previous comments and how forgiving people are. My bet is that this is where the gravy train ends... ... for now... though I don't think we have heard the last from him...

@lovesong

What changed? He's doing the same thing just with a different topic. So what changed to have this much animosity towards him?

The only thing I can tell is that people defend him when the subject matter doesn't align with their own.

So the conservatives are not fine with pedophilia, hence their own banishment from one of their events. But they're ok with homosexual, racial, sexual and transexual slurs and incitement?

There seems to be a consistency issue here.

Also, when did Milo ever backtrack on his word? He's trying very hard to clarify his stance with pedophilia and how he doesn't support it. Why didn't he defend himself against insinuation that he's a homophobic, sexist, racist, or anti-transexual?

If he's going to go down this road and be the die-hard troll then, honestly, I expect him to be consistent no matter who he offends, trolls, or baits.

 

[YmirGF]

@lovesong

What changed? He's doing the same thing just with a different topic. So what changed to have this much animosity towards him?

The only thing I can tell is that people defend him when the subject matter doesn't align with their own.

So the conservatives are not fine with pedophilia, hence their own banishment from one of their events. But they're ok with homosexual, racial, sexual and transexual slurs and incitement?

There seems to be a consistency issue here.

Also, when did Milo ever backtrack on his word? He's trying very hard to clarify his stance with pedophilia and how he doesn't support it. Why didn't he defend himself against insinuation that he's a homophobic, sexist, racist, or anti-transexual?

If he's going to go down this road and be the die-hard troll then, honestly, I expect him to be consistent no matter who he offends, trolls, or baits.

In theory, his goose is cooked. We will have to wait and see if he manages to find anyone who still wants to talk with him. Who knows?

 

[suncowiam]

In theory, his goose is cooked. We will have to wait and see if he manages to find anyone who still wants to talk with him. Who knows?

I honestly expect him not to back track on any of his comments. This now demonstrates a moral ground behind what he defends and doesn't defend. If he's going to defend himself against pedophilia, then hes going to have to do so with other offensive topics. If not then I have no choice but to believe they were true.

With no consistency who can really trust him now?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In theory, his goose is cooked. We will have to wait and see if he manages to find anyone who still wants to talk with him. Who knows?

I think that may be why Maher didn't say much against Milo. He's more than smart enough to know his audience wouldn't receive him well, nor would the Left-leaning panel members (I suspect Wilmore may have been deliberately selected because he will call out ****).
Regardless, it was abit unusual for Maher, who is typically much more opinionated than he was then. If anything, it makes me wonder if it was a passive-aggressive jab at the "alt-right" by walking its "face" into a lions den, because there are few things Liberals hate as much as a self-hating, self-loathing, and self-depreciating homosexual who is promoting that self-hate.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Oh geesh, the gay guy is being homophobic. You have no idea how many times I get called a racist and a white nationalist.

There is a joke behind those two words because I cannot be any of those things by disposition.

 

[Notanumber]

Is it possible that he has highlighted a situation that many had no idea about?

I had no idea what is happening in the world today until this raised my attention.

I found this on YouTube that is worth watching.

This is from the comments section –

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Andrew Westmoreland6 hours ago

I know that this is a very hot topic but I remind everyone to watch the video in full before losing their minds. Thanks in advance.


MrSting171 hour ago

Who cares ? Greeks & Romans back then. What about NOW !!! We were over in Afghanistan and our soldiers were told to ignore man-boy sex called "Bacha Bazi". Look at the headlines from the NYT "U.S. Soldiers Told To Ignore Sexual Abuse of Boys by Afghan Allies." and "US Troops Told to Disregard Afghan Allies Pedophilia"(Commanders' sexual abuse of boys widespread). It goes on to say, "Lance Corporal Gregory Buckley Jr., who was shot to death after reporting abuse by Afghans." One of our soldiers was trying to stop it and was killed ! And we condone this ? Another article states, "Marines Trained that Rape in Afghanistan is a 'Cultural' Issue". Another, "U.S. Soldiers Disciplined for stopping rape of children by Afghan police." Trump is right about "fake news" or purposely leaving out details of stories or not publishing them enough. A documentary on PBS showed Albanian refugees having to pimp their son just to have money to eat in Italy. Reality is tough to stomach, but this is what goes on in other countries. Now we are transporting these practices all across Europe and to a place near you ! It's "cultural" so we can't interfere with their practices. Huh ? You people want to transport these practices from Third World hell holes to a neighborhood near you. "We have to bring them here. We have to help." To stroke YOUR ego with everyone else's tax money. Then there is the practice of "Taharrush", where a woman is surrounded and gang raped by many men. Think of Lara Logan from CBS News in Egypt. If you want cultural "carte blanche", pay for refugee camps OVER THERE. Keep them out of Europe and North America. We wouldn't put up with an American doing these things to another person here. And now we're going to look the other way ? We didn't look the other way with Mormon polygamy. We made them conform to OUR NORMS. Those that didn't want to, left and some went to Mexico. That's why some of Mitt Romney's relatives were down there. His father George Romney was born there. At least Milo's escapades weren't forced or pressured and were as "consensual" as can be expected in today's world where minors can see every kind of deviancy on their computer before they even reach the age of majority.


Andrew Westmoreland1 hour ago

MrSting17 I'm very aware of what's happening in Afghanistan and that our troops are forced to support pedophiles and rapists there. It's disgusting and it makes me question why we're even there. Thanks for your comment.

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Is this the truth or more fake news?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Oh geesh, the gay guy is being homophobic. You have no idea how many times I get called a racist and a white nationalist.

There is a joke behind those two words because I cannot be any of those things by disposition.

Yes, gay men can have internalized homophobia and non-whites can have internalized racism. I'm non-white and I used to be a white supremacist.

 

[fantome profane]

Wasn't Maher's bigger point when talking to Milo about how unfortunate it is that Liberals always take the bait??

Do you guys not see how that's exactly what this thread is doing?

In a matter of weeks, Milo has gone from a back-closet fringe speaker to a household name... Good job, us.

Yet taking the bait is exactly what Maher did. There is a difference between standing up for freedom of speech and providing a free platform for bigots. What Maher did was the latter.

And before someone says it, Bill Maher had every right to do what he did. I just think it was a mistake.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Yet taking the bait is exactly what Maher did. There is a difference between standing up for freedom of speech and providing a free platform for bigots. What Maher did was the latter.

And before someone says it, Bill Maher had every right to do what he did. I just think it was a mistake.

I think he put him in a room full of people who could argue circles around him, and Milo folded. That's the kind of stuff that needs to happen to these people. If you watch Overtime, where Milo was on the panel, you'll see what I mean. Tomi Lahren, a couple of weeks before, was similarly subdued...

It's easy for these boneheads to talk fervently about their position when they're surrounded by like-minded people and comfortably secluded from any real dissenting opinions. But when pressed, these people don't know what to do. Their positions seem sound and strong to them because they never have to face any real opposition. I wish they'd have Ben Shapiro next. I like that they're dealing with all of the hero voices of this New Right movement and exposing them for what they are.

Criticisms of which points Bill should have been harder on are absolutely fair. But pretending that those guests shouldn't even get air-time is absurd, in my opinion. There's no better way to expose them than to put them on the spot, live and unscripted.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Yet taking the bait is exactly what Maher did. There is a difference between standing up for freedom of speech and providing a free platform for bigots. What Maher did was the latter.

And before someone says it, Bill Maher had every right to do what he did. I just think it was a mistake.

I don't think hosting Yiannopoulos per se was a mistake; tolerating his bigotry isn't the same as merely hosting him for discussion. Maher hosted Hitchens before, and the latter literally gave Maher's audience the finger. I think allowing such different viewpoints to be expressed on his show and challenging them (and being challenged by his guests himself) is to Maher's credit, even though I don't like him.

 

[fantome profane]

I think he put him in a room full of people who could argue circles around him, and Milo folded. That's the kind of stuff that needs to happen to these people. If you watch Overtime, where Milo was on the panel, you'll see what I mean. Tomi Lahren, a couple of weeks before, was similarly subdued...

It's easy for these boneheads to talk fervently about their position when they're surrounded by like-minded people and comfortably secluded from any real dissenting opinions. But when pressed, these people don't know what to do. Their positions seem sound and strong to them because they never have to face any real opposition. I wish they'd have Ben Shapiro next. I like that they're dealing with all of the hero voices of this New Right movement and exposing them for what they are.

Criticisms of which points Bill should have been harder on are absolutely fair. But pretending that those guests shouldn't even get air-time is absurd, in my opinion. There's no better way to expose them than to put them on the spot, live and unscripted.

I did watch both parts, Bill Maher's one on one interview and the after hours panel. And I am at a loss for words to express how much I love Larry Wilmore! It was a tragedy when his show got cancelled. But as for Maher's interview, he barely mentioned the trolling or the stupid comments that this person is known for. A agree that Bill Maher is intelligent enough to argue circles around this idiot, but he didn't do it on this occasion. Maher gave this moron exactly what he wanted.

There is a lot of wisdom in the idea of don't feed the trolls.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't think hosting Yiannopoulos per se was a mistake; tolerating his bigotry isn't the same as merely hosting him for discussion. Maher hosted Hitchens before, and the latter literally gave Maher's audience the finger. I think allowing such different viewpoints to be expressed on his show and challenging them (and being challenged by his guests himself) is to Maher's credit, even though I don't like him.

I just wish that Maher had taken the opportunity to expose some of the more odious trolling that this person is known for, rather than bond with him over being banned from college campuses.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Is it possible that he has highlighted a situation that many had no idea about?

I had no idea what is happening in the world today until this raised my attention.

I found this on YouTube that is worth watching.

Except transgender people are not at an elevated risk of being sexual predators, and very few actually are. Heterosexual men, on the other hand, are still the number one group for sexual predators.

Yet taking the bait is exactly what Maher did. There is a difference between standing up for freedom of speech and providing a free platform for bigots. What Maher did was the latter.

One of the things I like about Real Time is that Maher does have people from "both sides" on his shows as guests and panel members, and he's usually good about keeping the panel moving along and on topic. And Maher is himself a fierce supporter of free speech. Maher basically does very little, and he gets to maintain the "high ground" as his panel and audience ripped apart Milo and gave very little to be twisted around.

I think he put him in a room full of people who could argue circles around him, and Milo folded. That's the kind of stuff that needs to happen to these people.

Very true, and putting him in front of that panel and in the middle of a predominately Liberal audience, Maher isn't stupid. This did not, at all, look like his normal "give the other side a chance to speak." It looked more like he planned all along to lure Milo outside of his safe zones, and give it straight to Left leaning audience that he isn't a good debator and he doesn't make good points. Put him in front of a panel that can debate circles around him, and an audience he often criticizes for their lack of strong support of free speech, and it makes me think he was trying show the "lion" doesn't have any teeth or claws and is hardly more than a kitten. This is one of their "poster boys," and Maher seemed more interested in making the "big fish in a small pond" uncomfortable by putting him in with a lake with bigger fish and a school of piranha off to the side.

 

[YmirGF]

Very true, and putting him in front of that panel and in the middle of a predominately Liberal audience, Maher isn't stupid. This did not, at all, look like his normal "give the other side a chance to speak." It looked more like he planned all along to lure Milo outside of his safe zones, and give it straight to Left leaning audience that he isn't a good debator and he doesn't make good points. Put him in front of a panel that can debate circles around him, and an audience he often criticizes for their lack of strong support of free speech, and it makes me think he was trying show the "lion" doesn't have any teeth or claws and is hardly more than a kitten. This is one of their "poster boys," and Maher seemed more interested in making the "big fish in a small pond" uncomfortable by putting him in with a lake with bigger fish and a school of piranha off to the side.

Having him eaten by hungry lions wasn't exactly a hard thing to predict the outcome of. It's not like it was going to be a love fest, LOL... ... and Maher knew it. Milo did fairly well considering he must have known that he was going to be dinner.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Milo did fairly well considering he must have known that he was going to be dinner.

I do have to agree on that. He certainly was not anywhere nearly as poorly behaved as Ben Affleck was, though I will also say he didn't handle himself as well as Ann Coulture does when she's on his show. But, then again, she does have several more years experience as a professional troll than Milo does.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Anyone keeping up with what's happening to young Milo after his Bill Maher gig?

The publisher of his book has rescinded its publication.
He was dropped from an invitation to speak at CPAC.
And he just stepped down as editor of Breitbart.

All-in-all, I'd say it went according to plan.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anyone keeping up with what's happening to young Milo after his Bill Maher gig?

The publisher of his book has rescinded its publication.
He was dropped from an invitation to speak at CPAC.
And he just stepped down as editor of Breitbart.

All-in-all, I'd say it went according to plan.

Hopefully such things (including two cabinet appointees going down) can continue for four years. If these things were happening months before the 2020 election, it would be a best case scenario and couldn't be planned any better as they are essentially taking themselves down.
As for Maher, I wish I really knew his true intentions. Was Milo just another guest, and Maher being very careful so Milo's alt-right fan base couldn't twist things around, or did Maher launch an intentional attack on the alt-right?

 

[Sha'irullah]

Yes, gay men can have internalized homophobia and non-whites can have internalized racism. I'm non-white and I used to be a white supremacist.

Not remotely self-homophobic and I have a white nationalist on speed dial. I guess by this point I am a self hating black male