Minneapolis Police Fail Report Card

[The Hammer]

6 key points from the scathing report on Minneapolis police after George Floyd's killing

The Justice Department has issued a scathing assessment of Minneapolis police, alleging that racial discrimination and excessive force went unchecked before George Floyd’s killing because of inadequate oversight and an unwieldy process for investigating complaints.

apnews.com

"The focus of the probe was to examine whether there has been a pattern or practice of unconstitutional or unlawful policing in the Minneapolis Police Department. It examined the use of force by officers, including during protests, and whether the department engages in discriminatory practices. It also looked at the handling of misconduct allegations, treatment of people with behavioral health issues and systems of accountability.

Investigators found numerous examples of excessive force, unlawful discrimination and First Amendment violations. They reviewed 19 police shootings and determined that officers sometimes fired without first determining whether there was an immediate threat of harm to the officers or others. "

 

[The Hammer]

Multiple accounts of excessive use of force, a lack of oversight and investigation into complaints, cover-ups, racial discrimination, the whole gamut it seems.

Pretty sure this is many departments and not just Minneapolis that acts like this.

 

[Heyo]

Multiple accounts of excessive use of force, a lack of oversight and investigation into complaints, cover-ups, racial discrimination, the whole gamut it seems.

Pretty sure this is many departments and not just Minneapolis that acts like this.

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WHAT HAPPENS NOW?​

The report noted that the department has made some improvements, such as banning chokeholds and no-knock warrants, training officers on the duty to intervene and sending mental health workers to some incidents. But it said there is still work to be done.

As a result of the investigation, the city and the police department agreed to a deal known as a federal consent decree, which will require reforms to be overseen by an independent monitor and approved by a federal judge. That arrangement is similar to previous interventions in cities such as Seattle, New Orleans, Baltimore and Ferguson, Missouri." - from the article

The unlawful behavior of the police had been going on for decades, now there seems to be some action - after, sometimes violent, protests all over the country. Would the improvements have happened without the protests or with less ... impactful protests?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

"

WHAT HAPPENS NOW?​

The report noted that the department has made some improvements, such as banning chokeholds and no-knock warrants, training officers on the duty to intervene and sending mental health workers to some incidents. But it said there is still work to be done.

As a result of the investigation, the city and the police department agreed to a deal known as a federal consent decree, which will require reforms to be overseen by an independent monitor and approved by a federal judge. That arrangement is similar to previous interventions in cities such as Seattle, New Orleans, Baltimore and Ferguson, Missouri." - from the article

The unlawful behavior of the police had been going on for decades, now there seems to be some action - after, sometimes violent, protests all over the country. Would the improvements have happened without the protests or with less ... impactful protests?

I think the protests were important to bring light to the situation. The violence I don’t like, but the protests likely would’ve went unnoticed if it wasn’t for it.

 

[Heyo]

The violence I don’t like,

Neither do I.
But I also dislike when people are ignored if they don't make it unmistakably clear they mean it this time. It's not that there weren't peaceful protests before.

 

[Kfox]

Multiple accounts of excessive use of force, a lack of oversight and investigation into complaints, cover-ups, racial discrimination, the whole gamut it seems.

Pretty sure this is many departments and not just Minneapolis that acts like this.

Yet Minneapolis has a black Police Chief, high percentage of police officers, and majority black city council. With so many black people in positions of power of such a city, it still comes down to racism huh?

 

[F1fan]

Yet Minneapolis has a black Police Chief, high percentage of police officers, and majority black city council. With so many black people in positions of power of such a city, it still comes down to racism huh?

You seem woefully oblivious to the "us versus them" attitude among police. Did you forget, or ignore, the Tyre Nichols case?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/31/us/tyre-nichols-investigation-tuesday/index.html

 

[Kfox]

You seem woefully oblivious to the "us versus them" attitude among police. Did you forget, or ignore, the Tyre Nichols case?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/31/us/tyre-nichols-investigation-tuesday/index.html

So it's "us vs them" and not about racism? Because the link you provided seems to suggest it was all about racism.

 

[F1fan]

So it's "us vs them" and not about racism?

Is that your conclusion? Explain.

Because the link you provided seems to suggest it was all about racism.

You can interpret anyway you like.

 

[Kfox]

Is that your conclusion? Explain.

You are the one who brought it up! I was assuming it was your conclusion.

 

[F1fan]

You are the one who brought it up! I was assuming it was your conclusion.

Just pointing out how irrelevant your point about so many black police officers, as it doesn't mean better treatment for black citizens.

 

[Kfox]

Just pointing out how irrelevant your point about so many black police officers, as it doesn't mean better treatment for black citizens.

My point about so many black officers was to suggest perhaps racism isn't the problem.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yet Minneapolis has a black Police Chief, high percentage of police officers, and majority black city council. With so many black people in positions of power of such a city, it still comes down to racism huh?

A couple things are operating here....
- Research shows that black cops also exhibit
implicit racism towards blacks.
- "Racism" is the default accusation in any
adverse encounter between white cops & blacks.

When Minneapolis cop, Mohamed Noor shot
Mohamed Noor killed Justine Ruszczyk is wasn't
treated as racist because he's black & she's white.

Ref...

Implicit Racial Bias and Its Effects on Policing

Is there systematic racism in policing? Science says yes, but much of it may be implicit and unconscious. The good news is such biases can be detected and perhaps even corrected.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[Kfox]

A couple things are operating here....
- Research shows that black cops also exhibit
implicit racism towards blacks.
- "Racism" is the default accusation in any
adverse encounter between white cops & blacks.

When Minneapolis cop, Mohamed Noor shot
Mohamed Noor killed Justine Ruszczyk is wasn't
treated as racist because he's black & she's white.

Ref...

Implicit Racial Bias and Its Effects on Policing

Is there systematic racism in policing? Science says yes, but much of it may be implicit and unconscious. The good news is such biases can be detected and perhaps even corrected.

www.psychologytoday.com

So evidently the data used to draw these conclusions are biased.