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Minnesota’s New ‘LGBT Education Specialist’ Thinks Teachers Should ‘Explain Nonbinary Identities’ To Preschoolers

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I couldn't find this news reported by any reputable sources, but in general, I think basic sex education usually starts in middle to high school—around the time most children hit puberty and need to understand biology and gender in a scientific and non-sexualized manner. I'm not aware of any countries that explore it in depth before that point.
I recall reading about recommendations from various child experts and psychologists calling for basic sex Ed to start as soon as possible. To prevent sex abuse or to allow students to understand when a line is crossed, so are able to report it.
Relying on parents just allows for abusive scenarios to occur.
I also know that the curriculum tends to teach concepts at younger and younger ages.
Like what I learnt in primary school, the generation above me learnt in high school.
So it could be possible that the curriculum in my country includes sex education for younger and younger grades. Very basic obviously. But perhaps more “in depth” than my generation got :shrug:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I just think some things are better taught at home than in a classroom where little kids can barely tie their own shoelaces yet , and cut construction paper with saftey sissors.

I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Which is it?

- you think that manners and respect shouldn't be taught in schools, or

- you think that manners and respect to cis people, but not to trans and non-binary people, should be taught in schools
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I just think some things are better taught at home than in a classroom where little kids can barely tie their own shoelaces yet , and cut construction paper with saftey sissors.



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But that is the one thing about what one learns during schooling, as to a bit of levelling, given that so many parents will never discuss sexual issues and similar, or perhaps give rather biased views as to certain things. Surely children deserve to have a more neutral education so as for them to decide how they see things for themselves - in later years when they are able.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Simple. I'd rather not overload little kids with too much information they really don't need yet.

Let them be kids for awhile, let them learn to tie their shoelaces and cut construction paper , and make fun hand prints on paper plates as they learn to write their names on the bottom.

The adult stuff can come later on as their brains develop.

As long as we have bigots stomping on rainbow flags in front of schools in full view of the kindergarteners, LGBTQ issues are going to come up.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Too much knowledge.
It's dangerous to understand too much about gender.
If there's one thing our schools should be set up to do, it's make sure there's less understanding.

I, for one, think there's far too much understanding going around these days. I just don't understand it.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
There are elements of the "human sexuality" curriculum that get taught to young children here, but it's pretty well limited to stuff like:

- correct names for body parts

- "good touches" vs. "bad touches" (and to tell an adult you trust in the event of a "bad touch" by someone)

- different kinds of families
I think learning about different kinds of families would be appropriate for preschoolers. For instance, a working mom and a stay-at-home dad is a good family arrangement, even though it doesn't follow traditional binary stereotypes.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I have no doubt nor relutance whatsoever in supporting this sort of initiative.

It is about time, really.

I wonder which sort of mental acrobatics tries to conclude otherwise.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I think learning about different kinds of families would be appropriate for preschoolers. For instance, a working mom and a stay-at-home dad is good family arrangement, even though it doesn't follow traditional binary stereotypes.

Indeed. Along with families with two moms, two dads, non-binary parent(s), a grandparent who lives in the home, single parent arrangements, kids being raised by relatives other than parents, etc., etc.

Every child should get a sense of the diversity among families, and every child should be able to see their particular family arrangement reflected in the description of what a "family" is.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Simple. I'd rather not overload little kids with too much information they really don't need yet.

Let them be kids for awhile, let them learn to tie their shoelaces and cut construction paper , and make fun hand prints on paper plates as they learn to write their names on the bottom.

The adult stuff can come later on as their brains develop.


You're working from seriously wrong premises here, unfortunately. And expecting others to sacrifice themselves to protect those premises, which is unthinkable.


There is nothing "adult" in learning that there is a LGBTIQ+ spectrum. If anything, learning about nonbinary people specifically is very much appropriate for children who have not yet been exposed to sexism and rigid gender roles.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Poor kids. I pity them.
Teaching kids that gender has a spectrum seems
like ordinary useful knowledge.
It beats the Hell out of what I endured in public
school in the 50s & 60s, eg, Bible stories read
by the teacher, being told that God will get us
if we try to deny him.
No ****. That crap really happened before SCOTUS
put a stop to (most of) it. Christians have long been
trying to use government to push their antiquated
& often evil views upon us under color of authority.
Time for some corrective education that will enable
more tolerance for the square pegs who don't fit
in their round holes.


Dang....phrasing...I might have to fix that last sentence.
 
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syo

Well-Known Member
It beats the Hell out of what I endured in public
school in the 50s & 60s, eg, Bible stories read
by the teacher, being told that God will get us
if we try to deny him.
No ****. That crap really happened before SCOTUS
put a stop to (most of) it. Christians have long been
trying to use government to push their antiquated
& often evil views upon us using color of authority.
Poor kids. I pity them too.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Honestly I don't know if this is a good idea, or a bad idea. But I don't see anything to get upset about. Am I missing something?
Yes, it is an excellent opportunity of accusing Democrats of sexualizing youth, even though nothing sexual besides the same sort of instruction about "sometimes women fall in love with women" and "sometimes men fall in love with men" lines are used to teach children about homosexuality at that age. In other words it is hysteria about teaching children to be decent human beings and nothing more.
 
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