Minnesota’s New ‘LGBT Education Specialist’ Thinks Teachers Should ‘Explain Nonbinary Identities’ To Preschoolers

[We Never Know]

If the school is doing a good enough job, it would be encouraging good social behavior among students and discouraging things like bullying and harassing others. I don't understand what you think the school is supposed to do in that example. Parents could teach their kids whatever they please at home but proper behavior at school would still be expected.

Sad thing is some parents it seems use school to raise their kids.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes it is. Anyone with just half a properly functioning brain alone can see the matter falls with healthcare professionals like its always been in the past. That's where it needs to stay period.

Those subjects have absolutely no place in the classroom save perhaps high school and college. Those should be electives as well.

It hasn't always been the responsibility of medical professionals. And high school, amd especially college, is way too late of you're trying to protect and empower kids against sexual abuse and harassment.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It hasn't always been the responsibility of medical professionals. And high school, amd especially college, is way too late of you're trying to protect and empower kids against sexual abuse and harassment.

The school nurse had the anatomicaly correct doll as far back as the 70s as I recall.

Worked fine then , no real need to change things imv.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If the school is doing a good enough job, it would be encouraging good social behavior among students and discouraging things like bullying and harassing others. I don't understand what you think the school is supposed to do in that example. Parents could teach their kids whatever they please at home but proper behavior at school would still be expected.

What are good social behaviors? How are we defining bullying? After all, to some it is good, appropriate behavior to be an insufferable religious prick who won't stop preaching or point out percieved sins.
It would be better for schools to just teach kids to respect others amd get along without antaginizing people.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The school nurse had the anatomicaly correct doll as far back as the 70s as I recall.

Worked fine then , no real need to change things imv.

Having a doll doesn't teach anything. You have to teach kids where the bad touches are before you hamd them a doll anf ask where they were touched.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sad thing is some parents it seems use school to raise their kids.

Good lord, I think you hit the nail on the head.

Schools today are really turning more and more into the American version of the old Russian Komsomol.

 

[Heyo]

Children don't legally have rights until they are an adult.

Can't get the slave holder mentality out of you US people, can you?
Children as property of their parents is so 2020 ... BC.
In civilized countries children have rights, many rights which can be, if needed, enforced even against the parents. But then, we care about children after they are born while you seem only concerned with fetuses which aren't born, yet.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Can't get the slave holder mentality out of you US people, can you?

The ones who give the rest of us a bad name.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Schools today are really turning more and more into the American version of the old Russian Komsomol.

Do you know what Komsomol was?

 

[SomeRandom]

Sad thing is some parents it seems use school to raise their kids.

Whilst I certainly agree (and I feel terrible about it)
The reality is that schools are the last bastion of teaching children morality and ethical values. Due to awful home circumstances.

I’m speaking in general terms, of course
Whilst I sincerely wish that wasn’t the case, it is a reality going back decades if not centuries.

Public schools handle the cases of children in all sorts of social circumstances. That’s just reality. And the parents can’t always be trusted to teach the kids proper things in society or whatever. Some can, some can’t
That’s just the reality we live in.
So I mean the school needs to account for this. Even if it annoys parents.
The US gives way too much leeway to parents, imo. They’re not experts, they don’t know crap. Screw them, as far as I’m concerned.

And I say this as someone who grew up with loving parents, someone who was always close to both parents. Someone who never felt unsafe in my home life.
I’m taking this from the various “experts” I’ve known in my life. Lol
But I will say it’s also with the input of various folks I’ve known with terrible parents.
Parents who should be in jail, not even kidding

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Public schools handle the cases of children in all sorts of social circumstances. That’s just reality. And the parents can’t always be trusted to teach the kids proper things in society or whatever. Some can, some can’t
That’s just the reality we live in.
So I mean the school needs to account for this. Even if it annoys parents.
The US gives way too much leeway to parents, imo. They’re not experts, they don’t know crap. Screw them, as far as I’m concerned.

Brings to mind all the words I picked at home and here and there as a kid that I had to relearn what they really mean in order to partake in polite conversation with the civilized world.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you know what Komsomol was?

It was a Communist Soviet youth program and yes it included schools.

 

[syo]

Klinefelter syndrome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is usually caused by the female. When ovaries create eggs they only undergo partial meiosis. That is where the ovary splits and half of the DNA goes to one half, and the other goes to the ovary. In females the other half does not form an egg. Sometimes the split is not complete and an extra X stays behind. The ovary has both of her X chromosomes instead of only one. The result is a nominal male with various physical differences.

That is just one possibility. A person can also have XYY. They tend to have more severe acne, are a bit taller, 3" on average, and slightly less intelligent:

Jacobs Syndrome - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The cause appears to be similar to the XXY condition, but in this case the male sperm did not properly separate the Y chromosomes and a sperm with both of them got through.


Now this is just dealing with sex. Gender and sex are not the same Gender is how one's sexuality is expressed. But there do seem to be differences within the brain of those that are trans. This is not "make believe".

Why are you posting this?

 

[syo]

Nature happened.

What happened in your head?

 

[Father Heathen]

No, it's not. I think anyone half a functioning brain would rather empower children so they know they don't have to accept such abuse, to make sure they know to tell an adult if it happems , amd especially for them to know they did nothing wrong amd have nothing to feel ashamed of.

We've had this exact same discussion with him before. He sees child abuse as an acceptable sacrifice in order to maintain the status quo.

 

[Father Heathen]

What happened in your head?

Thought processing. It may happen in yours too one day.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That's the parents business.

Is it?

Is that why schools have health class and physical education?

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's for the school nurse to handle.

I'm for traditional nessessary curriculums like reading , English , math, social studies, science.

School nurse? What?

So instead of arming kids with knowledge about their own bodies, so they can be prepared and be aware of the signs of someone who is trying to (or is) abuse them, you'd rather teach them none of that, and just hope they go to the school nurse when they're being abused, even though nobody has taught them about what abuse looks like? Teaching little Jane and John the names of their body parts is too much for them? Come on.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That's the parents business.

I would think it would be the business of educators who are there to .... educate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why are you posting this?

You did not understand an earlier response by another poster. You still do not seem to have understood.