Miracles do happen - Pat Robertson is getting clever

[johnsweeting]

I just read that even Pat Robertson (who I think is a nut case) even thinks evolution is true (I guess he used his brain for the first time). I think (in my opinion...I might be wrong) the last election changed things big-time and it was a wake up call for the religious right.
The religious people are not dumb. They see where the future is heading and to still think the world is 6,000 years old will lead you to a slow death.

Pat Robertson Dispels Creationist Idea That Earth Is 6,000 Years Old | The Interrobang (link)

I've been listening to some conservative radio hosts like Mike Gallagher and even he is ready to "accept" gay marriage in which he was very opposed and said it was the end of America just a few years ago. Think about the future,which I'm positive that religion will decrease a lot, how much a lot of these people will change their view on things just to "live with the current times and culture". Give it a few years and even Pat Roberstson will think Gay marriage is not that bad. I'm a moderate democrat so I'm not a far left person but I'm a very convinced non-believer....

Here are some of my predictions for the future:

1. In 40-50 years you will be considered nuts if you are religious in many states including these: Connecticut, Washington, Oregon, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, Maryland, Colorado plus some more modern and "educated" states. I don't even for a split second include these states in this category: Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

2. In 7-8 elections (28-32 years) you will have presidential candidates that are open that they are not religious. I think this is already the case today but it is still not good publicity to say it....just give it a few years.

3. Once it starts I think it will go pretty fast and Americans will look at religion the same way as they do in other rich western countries such as Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

4. When I went to college in Colorado a few years back I know one person who was religious and the rest were not among the people I know at the business school. Maybe my college (University of Colorado) and the people I know were not a blue print of America as a whole but still. I still think If you ask a person if he or she is religious then they might say "yes" but in reality many and I mean many just don't care at all for it. They still feel some sort of shame for lack of a better word and say "yes" if they are religious. I truly believe this.
I also read that only 17,7% of all Americans go to church on a weekly basis. This is another example that religion in America is decreasing......

7 Startling Facts: An Up Close Look at Church Attendance in America - ChurchLeaders.com - Christian Leadership Blogs, Articles, Videos, How To's, and Free Resources

Am I way off in my predictions? Hopefully not

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

You're pretty close. I think we're seeing a decline in conservative religious views, and non-theism is on the rise. I also agree that most people just say they're religious, but in actuality, they are not. But, many people leaving traditional, conservative Christianity are not necessarily heading toward agnosticism and atheism. Many are turning to alternative spiritualities, like New Age, Neopaganism, Eastern religions, etc. I think America wants spirituality, but they're fed up with conservatism and fundamentalism.

 

[fantome profane]

I just read that even Pat Robertson (who I think is a nut case) even thinks evolution is true...

No, he doesn't. He has merely said he believes the earth is older than 6000 years. I haven't heard him say anything to indicate that he believes evolution is true.

I am sure he also believes the earth is round, the sky is blue and water is wet. But he still has a long way to go before I would consider him rational.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

He did state that dinosaurs happened before the Bible. I wonder exactly what he meant by this.

 

[Muffled]

He did state that dinosaurs happened before the Bible. I wonder exactly what he meant by this.

Most likely he meant before the 5000 year date (No one I ever saw says 6000) attributed to the creation of man from the earth by way of figuring generations from the Biblical record. Since the first creation story includes the creation of all things one would be wise to say that includes dinosaurs.

 

[Muffled]

No, he doesn't. He has merely said he believes the earth is older than 6000 years. I haven't heard him say anything to indicate that he believes evolution is true.

I am sure he also believes the earth is round, the sky is blue and water is wet. But he still has a long way to go before I would consider him rational.

I believe evolution is irrational. Pat Roberstson sys many things so it is not unlikely that something he says might be irrational but I find that God has given him wisdom and insight beyond that of many men.