Misappropriation of the word 'racist' used against Trump

[Debater Slayer]

[...] get triggered a lot [...]

Your mockery of the real ordeals many people have to live with is as contemptible as many of your posts. Then again, that's par for the course with the amounts of garbage you keep posting.

 

[Mindmaster]

Your mockery of the real ordeals many people have to live with is as contemptible as many of your posts. Then again, that's par for the course with the amounts of garbage you keep posting.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you from the cheap seats. Did you have a point to make? What does this post have to do with the topic of racism?

 

[Debater Slayer]

I'm sorry, I can't hear you from the cheap seats. Did you have a point to make? What does this post have to do with the topic of racism?

Ask yourself what your denigration has to do with the topic of racism. I'm not holding my breath, though... track record and all.

See ya. Have fun posting more childish tirades.

 

[Mindmaster]

Ask yourself what your denigration has to do with the topic of racism. I'm not holding my breath, though... track record and all.

See ya. Have fun posting more childish tirades.

Who was denigrating anyone? He called me a nazi, lol. I'm not gonna take the ****, and he doesn't have a right to do it.

Oh wait, this was the lefty subject change and diversion. I get it!

 

[Debater Slayer]

Who was denigrating anyone? He called me a nazi, lol. I'm not gonna take the ****, and he doesn't have a right to do it.

That has nothing to do with mocking people who are "triggered a lot" (in your words). Or is it your MO to lash out at people who did nothing to you when you feel offended?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Who was denigrating anyone? He called me a nazi, lol. I'm not gonna take the ****, and he doesn't have a right to do it.

Oh wait, this was the lefty subject change and diversion. I get it!

Er, you called the far-left "evil and fascist". Glass houses and such.

 

[Mindmaster]

That has nothing to do with mocking people who are "triggered a lot" (in your words). Or is it your MO to lash out at people who did nothing to you when you feel offended?

Are you triggered by me commenting that some people claim they are triggered but are disingenuous? Anyway, context is everything I was contrasting two different hypothetical mindsets to explain a comment. It's also not mockery in the sense of insulting them, but mockery in the sense of imitation.

 

[Mindmaster]

Er, you called the far-left "evil and fascist". Glass houses and such.

Do I need to define evil as well? I think you're qualifying as evil when your primary interest is deception and manipulation of others. I view all fascism as directly evil, so which "side" it is on isn't very important. But, I had my discussion of right fascism somewhere else and I'd largely repeat it.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Are you triggered by me commenting that some people claim they are triggered but are disingenuous? Anyway, context is everything I was contrasting two different hypothetical mindsets to explain a comment. It's also not mockery in the sense of insulting them, but mockery in the sense of imitation.

I'm wondering if you even believe the sort of amorphous nonsense you are peddling here. "Not mockery in the sense of insulting them"? Of course mockery is "in the sense of imitation." That doesn't mean it also can't be insulting, as in the case of your comment. What is mockery if not insulting remarks?

I'm not going to pursue this tangent any further, because I know that there are people in this thread who, unlike you, are engaging in adult discussion, and I don't want to derail this thread for them.

Have fun with your last word, which I'm pretty sure will be as juvenile as the rest of your rants here.

 

[George-ananda]

Except that's not correct. First, African-Americans aren't a race. Even East and West Africans are not the same race. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent, in terms of human populations. Yes, there are some sports that black athletes have been shown to dominate. Long-distance running, especially. but this success in long-distance running is mostly confined to Kenyans, and one tribe, at that - the Kalenjin. It does seem that the Kalenjin have certain physical attributes that make them better at marathon running. So they will generally perform better in such activities. But most black Americans wouldn't be of Kenyan descent.

African-Americans are hardly a homogeneous group. The ones who are descended from slaves would have a variety of West and Central African ethnicities and tribes in their heritage. They would also have a fair amount of European and Native American heritage - even a lot of Asian mixed in there, because there were a lot of marriages and relationships between black Americans and Chinese-Americans. Then there's also the newer African immigrants, adding to the mix. So they're very mixed. European-Americans are much the same. We're a bunch of mutts.

I am familiar with all you say above and don't disagree, but you didn't answer the question I asked.

Can a view both be correct and 'racist' at the same time. For example, I do believe African-Americas are inherently better in certain sport fields than Asian-Americans.

We can use the word 'ethnic group' as a better descriptor for African-Americans but what we are discussing is the colloquial America usage of the word 'racist'. And I am not arguing here whether my belief is correct or not, I was asking whether 'given' that I have that belief, am I a 'racist'. And secondly is it possible for me to be correct and be a racist at the same time.

I hope you better understand my question now.

 

[Nous]

5) RACISM DOESN'T: Apply to being a Syrian or Mexican, these are nationalities

People use the word "racist" to refer to Anglo's prejudice against Latinos because the word "ethnocentrism" has too many syllables.

RACISM IS ONLY THINKING YOU ARE SUPERIOR TO PEOPLE BASED ON _YOUR_ RACE OR DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM ON A NON-LOGICAL BASIS.

The claim that a judge is biased because "he's Mexican" is a claim of racist or ethnocentric prejudice.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I am familiar with all you say above and don't disagree, but you didn't answer the question I asked.



We can use the word 'ethnic group' as a better descriptor for African-Americans but what we are discussing is the colloquial America usage of the word 'racist'. And I am not arguing here whether my belief is correct or not, I was asking whether 'given' that I have that belief, am I a 'racist'. And secondly is it possible for me to be correct and be a racist at the same time.

I hope you better understand my question now.

No, it's not racist in of itself to say that populations have superficial physical differences, which are adaptations. What could make it racist are whatever conclusions you draw from it.

 

[Mindmaster]

I'm wondering if you even believe the sort of amorphous nonsense you are peddling here. "Not mockery in the sense of insulting them"? Of course mockery is "in the sense of imitation." That doesn't mean it also can't be insulting, as in the case of your comment. What is mockery if not insulting remarks?

I'm not going to pursue this tangent any further, because I know that there are people in this thread who, unlike you, are engaging in adult discussion, and I don't want to derail this thread for them.

Have fun with your last word, which I'm pretty sure will be as juvenile as the rest of your rants here.

Satire or imitation are often humorous, but they can seem insulting. I have no real control how you perceive it, and that's all you. I meant it more in the fashion of contrast/comparison, but to each their own. Rose-colored glasses, or not as you will. If you're looking for bad things in every word I type I don't really accept your opinion as qualified.

 

[Mindmaster]

People use the word "racist" to refer to Anglo's prejudice against Latinos because the word "ethnocentrism" has too many syllables.

The claim that a judge is biased because "he's Mexican" is a claim of racist or ethnocentric prejudice.

You're the best all day, I bet you are are the type that thinks no one but a white man can be racist too. Mexican is a nationality, the judge is working with illegals outside of the office, etc. Who needs facts? The complaints of the judge's bias are legit -- he is definitely pre-disposed toward illegal immigrants which would interfere with his ability to make unbiased decisions regarding Trump.

 

[columbus]

Seems that the overused term "racist" is used most often today by those who personally stand to benefit by keeping the "racist" pot stirred.

THIS^^^
Racism in the USA has been going away for decades. It is not gone by a long shot. But things are really different now from when I was a kid.

Now, most racism(in the USA) is the result of people who want racism to exist, like #BLM and the NAACP. Similarly, NOW and HRC don't want their bigotry to go away because then they'd have to find new jobs. Fighting bigotry is a gazillion dollars industry, so the last thing those people want is an egalitarian society, with peace, justice, and prosperity for all.
Tom

 

[Mindmaster]

No, it's not racist in of itself to say that populations have superficial physical differences, which are adaptations. What could make it racist are whatever conclusions you draw from it.

Unless the dearth of evidence supports the conclusion and the reactions to the information.

It's not racist to react to valid info whether or not it is favorable to a race.

 

[Mindmaster]

THIS^^^
Racism in the USA has been going away for decades. It is not gone by a long shot. But things are really different now from when I was a kid.

Now, most racism(in the USA) is the result of people who want racism to exist, like #BLM and the NAACP. Similarly, NOW and HRC don't want their bigotry to go away because then they'd have to find new jobs. Fighting bigotry is a gazillion dollars industry, so the last thing those people want is an egalitarian society, with peace, justice, and prosperity for all.
Tom

All of these people make money on racism, that's just the fact. It isn't even about equality anymore.

 

[George-ananda]

No, it's not racist in of itself to say that populations have superficial physical differences, which are adaptations. What could make it racist are whatever conclusions you draw from it.

What if it involves mental and behavioral traits and not just physical traits. What if someone believes there are some inherent genetically influenced reasons that Asian-Americans outperform African-Americans on standardized tests of mathematical abilities. Again, I am not arguing here if the belief is true or not, I am asking if given that is a person's belief should they be considered 'racists'? And secondly, is it ever possible to be both correct and 'racist' at the same time?

 

[Nous]

People use the word "racist" to refer to Anglo's prejudice against Latinos because the word "ethnocentrism" has too many syllables.

The claim that a judge is biased because "he's Mexican" is a claim of racist or ethnocentric prejudice.

You're the best all day, I bet you are are the type that thinks no one but a white man can be racist too.

There is no reason for you to make personal comments about me.

the judge is working with illegals outside of the office

Prove it. (That means cite your evidence.)

The complaints of the judge's bias are legit

Prove it. (That means cite your evidence.)

 

[columbus]

All of these people make money on racism, that's just the fact. It isn't even about equality anymore.

Think of the lawyers!

How are they gonna pay for their children's second homes if they can't sue Denny's?
Tom