Misquote in the Gospel

[savagewind]

It is fun if your part of the 99%.

I don't know if I am. I was a JW. Now I am not active as one. They say that they don't teach death to non-JWs, but if a person can read between the lines, they do say that. I have been there. When I was there, it was not fun. It was never fun.

 

[savagewind]

I can't find any fun in what the JWs believe, but it is fun to do what I do. What do I do?

 

[savagewind]

What's going down is SERIOUS (imo). Serious shouldn't be fun.

 

[kjw47]

Your sure about that because?

What I read at Exodus 20:4 is, not make for yourself any carved image OR ANY LIKENESS....of anything in heaven. Heaven is a spiritual place. Isn't it?

Take it as you will.

 

[kjw47]

That is what THEY tell you. Do I assume rightly that they do not actually hear from Jesus? If they do not hear from Jesus, then they can not know that Matthew 24:45 is about them. Can you think of any reason why they would want you to believe it is about them?
You are making that up! LOL

The bible is clear---Gods spirit bears witness to their spirit--- they do know.
The teachings of Jesus proves its them as well.

 

[kjw47]

Luke 10:16 is about the Apostles. You know that. Right?
I agree that The Holy God can not fail. Is it ok that I do not call God Jehovah and the reason why is because Jehovah is an English word and made up.
Thank you. I think you are kind.

Yahweh = Jehovah--you don't make it a habit to speak Hebrew so the English form is fine.
Do you call--JOB--YOB? Or Jeremiah--Yeremiah?

Luke 10 is about any real teacher of Jesus'. Back when it was written--the apostles were those teachers--today--the faithful and discreet slave are.

 

[savagewind]

The bible is clear---Gods spirit bears witness to their spirit--- they do know.
The teachings of Jesus proves its them as well.

I can't imagine how a person can know the Bible as well as you and also ignore all its warnings.

The heart is treacherous, who can know it?
Do not put your trust in the sons of men.
Everyone is a liar.
The thoughts of their hearts are bad from their youth and up.
Many will come in my name saying I am he (to be trusted). Do not go after them.
If ever that evil slave will say in his heart, "my master delays".......

Are you going to say that no governing body member has ever beat you?
Some of their rules are for hurting people. You should know that is a fact.

 

[savagewind]

Bergman says he definitely told Watchtower officials about the mental problems among JWs decades ago, but they said Jehovah's organization on earth is perfect and he had no business trying to tell them what to do. Watchtower said all that JWs with problems needed to do was pray, study and go out preaching at doors. They also told Bergman that even if it is true that many JWs have mental health issues, his talking openly about it would make Watchtower look badly and so he needed to shut up about it.


They said that they felt that Armageddon was so close at hand that even if the mental health of JWs is a major issue, it did not come close to mattering. Even if some Watchtower policy caused a JW to suffer mentally, well, in the end he would get eternal life so suffering now was no big deal.

SUICIDES AMONG JW's

 

[savagewind]

When they say, "my master delays" it means that they then feel free to make many rules (of their own), some very heavy burdens to bear, just like the Pharisees did. @kjw47 what do you say will happen to unrepentant Pharisee type people?

Their drunkenness just means that they can't see clearly. Spiritually speaking it does not mean real drink.

Matthew 26: 26-28 27Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

 

[Oeste]

only the mislead stand on either side. skin color--religion makes no difference--no true follower of Jesus would ever stand on either side--God condemned killing. 1John 3:10-12--no slaughtering of one another.

The misled stand on the side of those killing, not on the side of those protecting kjw. Otherwise, both Jesus and Jehovah were deceived into working for Satan every time they intervened. We are not expected to stand idly by while our neighbor's life is threatened (Lev 19:16).

Those who can stand idly by and watch their brother be unjustly killed when they have the capacity to stop it are certainly not in compliance with 1John 3:10-12.

But I think you're making progress. I'm glad you understand World War 2 could not be blamed on one's religion any more than it could be blamed on skin color.

 

[kjw47]

I can't imagine how a person can know the Bible as well as you and also ignore all its warnings.

The heart is treacherous, who can know it?
Do not put your trust in the sons of men.
Everyone is a liar.
The thoughts of their hearts are bad from their youth and up.
Many will come in my name saying I am he (to be trusted). Do not go after them.
If ever that evil slave will say in his heart, "my master delays".......

Are you going to say that no governing body member has ever beat you?
Some of their rules are for hurting people. You should know that is a fact.

Jesus warning is ignored by the majority
John 15:21-22-- He said----some would do things against the true followers for the name Jesus--Why?? Because they do not know the one who sent him= Father= the only true God= YHWH(Jehovah.
If they don't know him, they fail at John 4:22-24--the bottom line of every true followers life. They also fail this--John 17:1-6,26---Jesus taught here they must know the one who sent him to get eternal life. They fail that as well.
Not the GB,s rules---Gods rules.

 

[kjw47]

When they say, "my master delays" it means that they then feel free to make many rules (of their own), some very heavy burdens to bear, just like the Pharisees did. @kjw47 what do you say will happen to unrepentant Pharisee type people?

Their drunkenness just means that they can't see clearly. Spiritually speaking it does not mean real drink.

Matthew 26: 26-28 27Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

All present at the last supper were members of the little flock. the anointed.
the bible is clear--not all are worthy to partake=the great multitude.1Cor 11:27

 

[kjw47]

The misled stand on the side of those killing, not on the side of those protecting kjw. Otherwise, both Jesus and Jehovah were deceived into working for Satan every time they intervened. We are not expected to stand idly by while our neighbor's life is threatened (Lev 19:16).

Those who can stand idly by and watch their brother be unjustly killed when they have the capacity to stop it are certainly not in compliance with 1John 3:10-12.

But I think you're making progress. I'm glad you understand World War 2 could not be blamed on one's religion any more than it could be blamed on skin color.

How many x did Jehovah commission the Israelites to go stand up for their neighbors=0--
If Catholicism knew God or his son--they would have told the young men--DO NOT KILL for Adolf Hitler--he wouldn't have had enough armies left to attack anyone. Instead Italy became communist to back Hitler, to kill their own brothers in Christ who were standing on the other side. Woe to them.

 

[savagewind]

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Not the GB,s rules---Gods rules.

You don't understand. Just like THEY don't understand that God is ONE, you do not understand that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses are only conveying what they believe to be God's rules.

Do you understand the difference between what God really says and what people believe God really said?

 

[savagewind]

All present at the last supper were members of the little flock. the anointed.
the bible is clear--not all are worthy to partake=the great multitude.1Cor 11:27

Jesus did not say what is written at 1 Corinthians 11:27. Correct?
YOU say the Jehovah's Witnesses obey what Jesus taught, but Jesus did not teach what was written by Paul. Right?

 

[savagewind]

If a person is able to receive God's blessing of everlasting life only if he or she learns to be worthy, and the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses teach you that you are not worthy, then what? @kjw47

 

[savagewind]

Matthew 13:14

 

[savagewind]

Is it me not listening? I listened for 20 years and I am listening. How can I reason on what you are saying if I am not listening? YOU can't reason on what I am saying which proves to me that YOU are not listening.

 

[Oeste]

How many x did Jehovah commission the Israelites to go stand up for their neighbors=0--

Are you serious kjw?

The Israelites never stood up for their neighbor?

So when Israel was attacked or went to war, it was every man for himself???

If Catholicism knew God or his son--they would have told the young men--DO NOT KILL for Adolf Hitler--he wouldn't have had enough armies left to attack anyone. Instead Italy became communist to back Hitler, to kill their own brothers in Christ who were standing on the other side. Woe to them.

Remember what I said earlier about bigotry, critical thinking, are reading literature outside of the Organization?

Italy NEVER became communist. They were fascist. Hitler hated communism and it was the fear of communism that allowed the Nazis to ride into power.

Now let's address the anti-Catholic bigotry, one more time and then apply some critical thinking in the process. We'll take your statement once again:

If Catholicism Germans knew God or his son--they would have told the young men--DO NOT KILL for Adolf Hitler--he wouldn't have had enough armies left to attack anyone. Instead Italy became communist fascist to back Hitler, to kill their own brothers in Christ who were standing on the other side. Woe to them.

Do you tell the brothers in your Kingdom Halls they have a special "woe" if they're German or Italian?

Or is this a special woe you toss outside for the Catholics?

We've been over this before kjw, time and time again. You're an intelligent person. Please explain why you condemn Catholics but exclude Germans and Italians.

 

[kjw47]

You don't understand. Just like THEY don't understand that God is ONE, you do not understand that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses are only conveying what they believe to be God's rules.

Do you understand the difference between what God really says and what people believe God really said?

I studied the bible from both sides for many years. There is 0 doubt in all creation--The Jw teachers are correct. and Jesus teachings back them 100%