Misquote in the Gospel

[savagewind]

Haha "Yes".

 

[savagewind]

Where is it written that God has to keep The Name?

God's children get to change their names. Jesus will come with a new name.....

But not God.........according to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

So, where is the proof that Jehovah is God's name forever?.........actually not forever because English is a new language, so the people before us did not know God real name.

.....even though it was them who wrote the Bible

 

[omega2xx]

The Pharisees in Jesus day assured their followers that Jesus nor the apostles could be teachers because they did not attend their schools of men--they were wrong. Jesus' real teachers do NOT need the schools of men.

This is not about teaching, it is about accurately translating the Bible. To correctly translate Hebrew and Greek into English, one needs to be an expert in the language.

 

[omega2xx]

Not unless you can show where it is in the Bible, and you can't do that can you?

I could find your exact but it w something abut Jesus making a special covenant with someone.

 

[savagewind]

@kjw47 I suspect you really want to quote Exodus 3:15 to me........but that you think I am a lost case.

Do you want to dissect it with me?

A name is something that parents give to their offspring. God has no parent unless you count Mary.
So in the case of Exodus 3:15
{God also said to Moses, "Say this to the people of Israel: Yahweh, the God of your ancestors--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you. This is my eternal name, my name to remember for all generations.}
"name" means what people will call a person. That came true. We call God Jehovah.
"Memorial" means how a person is remembered. That probably means that it is the name that people will write about. That came true.

Call and remember are not the same as to know.

Exodus 3:15 is about calling on God and remembering God.

Where is the name written that it is said we will know God?

What name will we KNOW Jehovah by?

Jesus (not his real name) seems to say that it is a secret.

 

[kjw47]

Aha. So the Bible has authority, according to you?

I think you should rethink that.

God is my authority and in the end, I think, you want God to be your authority too.

When is the last time God directly told you a truth?

 

[kjw47]

You do not listen well. There still would have been a war even if all the priests in every land preached pacifism. The reason? Many, if not most, young men couldn't care any less about what the preacher preaches. Do you understand?

Must I elaborate? You seem to say that the Catholic Church could have prevented the war.
It could not have even if it stood up for peace and not war.

In todays world--youth may not care, but those laying down their life for a mass murderer in 1940,s did care. The majority were supposed Christians in ww2-- no true follower would ever stand against a brother in Christ. FALSE religion teachers and followers claiming to be Christian stood on both sides.

 

[kjw47]

@kjw47 The Jehovah's Witnesses stand for peace and not war. Right?

Well, there will still be the great tribulation. Correct?

There are still wars. Right?

Peace
Yes a great tribulation is coming soon.
Yes there are still wars. The 2 biggest war suppliers--USA-Russia--make sure there are wars. How else can they profit off of there wares?

 

[kjw47]

I didn't say you did either, so stop twisting mine. Read my post again. I'm referring to this silly bigoted nonsense your Organization teaches.



I read what you said and it is still bigoted.

If your Organization condemns Catholics because they could have prevented men from entering the War then they could just as easily condemn Germans for the same reason.

Yet we still see card carrying German Jehovah Witnesses hypocritically pointing fingers at Catholics.

I don't recall Jesus asking his followers to point a hypocritical finger at anyone, so for the second time why do your teachers teach it?

Also, for the second time, and especially since you brought it up, why didn't the Jehovah Witnesses who entered the camps prevent other Jehovah Witnesses from becoming loyal Nazis? If you're going to carve out Catholics for special criticism, shouldn't you first carve out Witnesses instead? (Mat 7:5)

Truth condemns catholics. The bibles truth points to that fact.
Each individual who knows already is fully responsible for their own actions.
The only ones who the concern is about are the ones pretending to serve Jesus. Not all Germans serve Jesus--only those professing to be Christian.

 

[kjw47]

Kjw47,
The way Hebrew is translated, there is,technically, more than one wat that this Scripture can be translated. It is up to the translator to chose the correct way, and that would be to translate the Scripture so that it agrees with all the Bible.
At Exodus 3:14,where many Bibles say, I Am that I Am, can be correctly be translated, I Am Who I Am, which seems to make more sense to me. Then inverse 15 Moses writes God's Proper Name, or Personal Name, Jehovah, and that this is His memorial for all generations. Verse 14 is also translated, He Causes to Become. Some translations say that, He will become what He chooses to become. Since the Bible states clearly that God does not change, the translation; He Causes to become, makes more sense, because Jehovah, The Almighty, causes everything to become just as He wants it to become.
At Exodus 6:2,3 I you look in a concordance or a literal Bible, you will find that Jehovah is God's Proper name, and that He had been known by the title, The Almighty.
Most errors found in translations are not caused on purpose, but the translator translates the wrong words, because he does not really understand God's purpose for the earth and mankind.
Any error can easily be determined by a comparison of translations. I use about 50 different translations.
Remember, God promised that He would protect His word from all generations, so you can find the truth if you search for it, as for hidden treasure, Psalms 12:6,7, Proverbs 2:1-5.
Think about this; if God allowed His word to be adulterated, so that truth cannot be found, How could God judge the world of mankind??? Agape!!!

Hebrew scholars say-- I am that I am = error in translating--- I will be what I will be is correct.
Truth is in every translation--in the teachings of Jesus--his teachings expose all trinity religions as false religion.
Like the liars who teach---heaven or hell as ones end by throwing Jesus away who teaches--Matt 5:5-- Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
They each heaven or hell because they do not know Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

This is not about teaching, it is about accurately translating the Bible. To correctly translate Hebrew and Greek into English, one needs to be an expert in the language.

And who is more expert than God through his holy spirit to mortals?

 

[savagewind]

When is the last time God directly told you a truth?

Today. Do you want to know what time?

Also, what does "directly" mean? You do know, do you not? YHVH employs angels to tell the truth.

 

[savagewind]

In todays world--youth may not care, but those laying down their life for a mass murderer in 1940,s did care. The majority were supposed Christians in ww2-- no true follower would ever stand against a brother in Christ. FALSE religion teachers and followers claiming to be Christian stood on both sides.

Maybe you do not understand the contradiction you lean on. You say the people the allies fought were "brothers in Christ". Do you know how ridiculous you appear?

 

[savagewind]

Peace
Yes a great tribulation is coming soon.
Yes there are still wars. The 2 biggest war suppliers--USA-Russia--make sure there are wars. How else can they profit off of there wares?

LOL. Do you mean, their wars?

 

[kjw47]

@kjw47 I suspect you really want to quote Exodus 3:15 to me........but that you think I am a lost case.

Do you want to dissect it with me?

A name is something that parents give to their offspring. God has no parent unless you count Mary.
So in the case of Exodus 3:15
{God also said to Moses, "Say this to the people of Israel: Yahweh, the God of your ancestors--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you. This is my eternal name, my name to remember for all generations.}
"name" means what people will call a person. That came true. We call God Jehovah.
"Memorial" means how a person is remembered. That probably means that it is the name that people will write about. That came true.

Call and remember are not the same as to know.

Exodus 3:15 is about calling on God and remembering God.

Where is the name written that it is said we will know God?

What name will we KNOW Jehovah by?

Jesus (not his real name) seems to say that it is a secret.

It cant be a secre

LOL. Do you mean, their wars?

Yes--their wars.

 

[kjw47]

Today. Do you want to know what time?

Also, what does "directly" mean? You do know, do you not? YHVH employs angels to tell the truth.

No domestic on this earth knows a revealed truth before Jesus anointed teachers do. Gods own angels don't even know them. 1Peter 1:12= about these facts.

 

[savagewind]

It cant be a secret

What can't be a secret? God's true Name?

Jesus is God's image. Correct? Jesus has a secret name. Or, do you guys not like that scripture?

 

[savagewind]

No domestic on this earth knows a revealed truth before Jesus anointed teachers do.

And......WHO told you that?

Gods own angels don't even know them. 1Peter 1:12= about these facts.

God's own angels do not need to know.

 

[savagewind]

@kjw47 WHO told you that you can not know anything until they tell you it?

 

[Oeste]

Truth condemns catholics. The bibles truth points to that fact.

That sounds like a bunch of bigoted, supremacist nonsense that I would expect to be taught in a hypocritical, spiritually sick Organization.

Please show us, once in for all, where we can find your "bible truth" that Catholics are condemned.

I think your "translation team" would have to work some very serious overtime in order to insert "Catholics" into their bible. Talk about misquotes!!!

The only ones who the concern is about are the ones pretending to serve Jesus.

Why on earth are you concerned about "the one pretending to serve Jesus"??? Is it you who will do the separating? Will you be guiding the angels at the appointed time, letting them know who's who?

Not all Germans serve Jesus--only those professing to be Christian.

Well if all Germans who profess to be Christian are serving Jesus why are you condemning Catholics? Don't Catholics profess to serve Jesus? Or has Jesus assigned you to do the separating work for him?

Catholics don't serve your Governing Board. Isn't that the real reason for the condemnation?