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[Ignatius A]

The source though you no doubt will dismiss it as well.

Who Knows What About Religion

The Pew Forum’s religious knowledge survey included 32 questions about various aspects of religion: the Bible, Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism, world

www.pewresearch.org

You are a good example of a Christian who doesn't understand their source material.

You want to take a crack at my knowledge of my source material?

 

[F1fan]

It was a silly answer then and it's a silly answer now. What YOU posted is how leftists frame all their arguments. You aren't a leftist? Funny because whenever I hear mooing there's always a cow nearby.

And Christian extremists look like sheep, but growl like wolves.

 

[Revoltingest]

OK. Look, I live in Ohio and as I've said before, one reason I LOVE it is because it played a big role in the Underground Railroad. I also love that it is a former Union state.

Would this not be an example of
the intersection of politics & morality?

 

[Ignatius A]

And Christian extremists look like sheep, but growl like wolves.

Then you shouldnt bigger them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You want to take a crack at my knowledge of my source material?

You may have memorized a good part of the Bible. So what? The claim was about Christians in general. You very well may know a lot about the Bible, but that still does not mean that the average atheist does not understand the Bible better than the average atheist.

Also, you are probably going to have better knowledge of specific parts of the Bible and atheists will have better knowledge of other parts of the Bible. How do you decide who knows it best?

 

[Pogo]

Actually that's usually atheists who started out theists.
There are atheists who are atheists because they weren't really brought up with religion. Studies have not found this group to share in the same levels of logic and reason that apostate atheists are known for.

Which is why they are often called apatheists.

 

[F1fan]

Then you shouldnt bigger them.

Is English your second language?

Interesting that you don't deny that Christian extreists are wolves in sheep's clothing.

As a "leftist" I don't fear Christian extremists. They are weak and fearful themselves.

 

[Ignatius A]

You may have memorized a good part of the Bible. So what? The claim was about Christians in general. You very well may know a lot about the Bible, but that still does not mean that the average atheist does not understand the Bible better than the average atheist.

Also, you are probably going to have better knowledge of specific parts of the Bible and atheists will have better knowledge of other parts of the Bible. How do you decide who knows it best?

Well you seem to think Pew knows how to decide and you seem quite content to accept their conclusions oh who knows best.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well you seem to think Pew knows how to decide and you seem quite content to accept their conclusions oh who knows best.

What makes you think that they "decide"? By the way, I did not link Pew, but I have found them to be generally very reliable. If you do not have anything more reliable then you have no point.

I asked you how would one determine who had a better knowledge about the Bible. Atheists are going to know the many places where it fails better than Christians. Christians are more likely to know verses that support their specific doctrine.

 

[Ignatius A]

What makes you think that they "decide"? By the way, I did not link Pew, but I have found them to be generally very reliable. If you do not have anything more reliable then you have no point.

I asked you how would one determine who had a better knowledge about the Bible. Atheists are going to know the many places where it fails better than Christians. Christians are more likely to know verses that support their specific doctrine.

I have no idea but AGAIN you seem to think pew has it figured it out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have no idea but AGAIN you seem to think pew has it figured it out.

They have it figure out far better than you or I do. You seem to be insulted by the fact that an atheist may know his Bible better than you. If you want a humbling event you should try to debate with Matt Dillahunty some day. I guarantee you that he understands the Bible better than you do.

 

[Ignatius A]

They have it figure out far better than you or I do. You seem to be insulted by the fact that an atheist may know his Bible better than you. If you want a humbling event you should try to debate with Matt Dillahunty some day. I guarantee you that he understands the Bible better than you do.

Not insulted just unimpressed. I haven't met a atheist who does. Oh yeah Dillahunty hes the loud mouth buffoon. I saw him in a debate with a Christian who treated him the way he treats the quiet meek Christians hes accustomed to debating. I haven't heard that much whining since my kids were little.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not insulted just unimpressed. I haven't met a atheist who does. Oh yeah Dillahunty hes the loud mouth buffoon. I saw him in a debate with a Christian who treated him the way he treats the quiet meek Christians hes accustomed to debating. I haven't heard that much whining since my kids were little.

Then you are probably merely ignorant and are also unwilling to learn. You might think that you could refute him, but any rational person would see through your claims.

If you ever plan to call him up please drop me a line.

 

[Secret Chief]

I suppose that to fundies with a simple
understanding of thing, being no a
conservative means being a leftist.
This makes discussion difficult.

Everything to the left of a maga is a lefty. You'd better get used to it, godless communist!

 

[Pogo]

Is English your second language?

Interesting that you don't deny that Christian extreists are wolves in sheep's clothing.

As a "leftist" I don't fear Christian extremists. They are weak and fearful themselves.

New Zealanders speak English, but the Kiwis are a lot more familiar with sheep than most.

 

[Ignatius A]

Then you are probably merely ignorant and are also unwilling to learn. You might think that you could refute him, but any rational person would see through your claims.

If you ever plan to call him up please drop me a line.

No it's not the learning that's the problem it's the teacher. But all teachers are equal right?
All someone has to do is be as obnoxious to him as he is to others and he whines.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There's no right to abortion.

There is. It's just one particular instance of the right to bodily autonomy and the right to privacy.

It's kind of like how there's no "right to be Christian;" there's just freedom of religion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No it's not the learning that's the problem it's the teacher. But all teachers are equal right?
All someone has to do is be as obnoxious to him as he is to others and he whines.

I doubt if you can support this claim of yours either. As to being obnoxious you would need to prove that claim too.

You may be conflating being obnoxious with well deserved condescension .

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Then perhaps the answer might be more self defense than anything else. Understanding the flaws in the reasoning of those that attack can be very useful. Which is probably why western atheists are better informed about Christianity than any other religion. For example in the US the odds of a Hindu claiming that they are "damned" by their religion, or whatever their equivalent is, would not have almost no threat of violence behind it since the Hindu's are an even smaller minority.

Yeah. It brings to mind when Paine complained Christianity is good at producing fanatics and atheists. Those who are inclined towards logic and reason are more likely to notice all the issues and problems, especially with more Evangelical and Conservative and Literalist types. Amd if you leave one because of its flaws in logic you'll probably do it again. This is probably why it's not at all unusual for someone who's autistic and American to start out Christian, leave that and practice something else for awhile (particularly forms of neo-Paganism like Wicca for in modern times) and then end up atheist or agnostic.
As for the study, it did suggest defense but not from violence but having to defend their position.

 

[Ignatius A]

I doubt if you can support this claim of yours either. As to being obnoxious you would need to prove that claim too.

You may be conflating being obnoxious with well deserved condescension .

No need

I'm not