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Mitzvah to Cure on the Sabbath

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
You should probably explain to @Akivah how pointing out your hypocrisy equates to breaking the Golden Rule. You should also explain to him what makes the Golden Rule a more serious transgression than any other in the Torah.

Because the Golden Rule covers the whole second part of the Decalogue. And he broke the Golden Rule because I did not like to be addressed to as a hypocrite, would you?
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Because the Golden Rule covers the whole second part of the Decalogue.
What does being in the Decalogue have to do with being serious? Being a false prophet is a sin, and it carries a much more serious punishment than most of the commandments in the Decalogue.
And he broke the Golden Rule because I did not like to be addressed to as a hypocrite, would you?
Well personally, if someone saw that I was being hypocritical I'd want them to point that out so that I can either rectify myself or defend myself.
Incidentally, I'm not convinced that the Golden Rule of the Torah applies to you.
 

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
Said the guy about the religion whose G-d has the most Names in the world.

HaShem has only one name. All the other references to Him are titles according to the actions of creation or descriptive adjectives about His relations with the Universe, especially man.
 

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
What does being in the Decalogue have to do with being serious? Being a false prophet is a sin, and it carries a much more serious punishment than most of the commandments in the Decalogue.

Well personally, if someone saw that I was being hypocritical I'd want them to point that out so that I can either rectify myself or defend myself. Incidentally, I'm not convinced that the Golden Rule of the Torah applies to you.

How, by calling you a hypocrite? I don't think you know what the Golden Rule is.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
I am fine Flankerl, how about yourself? What are you up to? What's your opinion about doing good works on the Sabbath? For instance, to go through the struggle of resuscitation to save a boy who had a sunstroke? Don't you think it was a mitzvah for Elijah to save that boy?

What is "sun"? Haven't seen that thing for a long time.

Also saving someones life on Shabbes was never against the rules.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
HaShem has only one name. All the other references to Him are titles according to the actions of creation or descriptive adjectives about His relations with the Universe, especially man.
That's one opinion. Not a Jewish one, mind you. But its definitely an opinion.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
And you mean even Haredi Jews!
Absolutely. Surely you know that ספק נפשות דוחה את השבת, right? And מפקחין פקוח נפש בשבת והזריז ה"ז משובח ואין צריך ליטול רשות מב"ד? Right?
 
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Flankerl

Well-Known Member
And you mean even Haredi Jews!

I've got family in Israel, an aunt and uncle of mine got a neighbour who's part of the uh... I think Chernobyl dynasty and he works with the MDA. Whether its for money or as an volunteer I don't know.

What I know is that he was about to leave his home on a Shabbat dressed in his MDA clothes when I dropped by to give them some Nunt and it wasn't even near Purim. Because normal people don't need a reason to eat some Nunt from time to time!
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
And did you know that you have just broken the Golden Rule?

I do know that if you put half of much time in rectifying your actions of being a hypocrite as you do denying that you are one, we'd be on a new topic by now.

What would you call someone that demands something from someone, but refuses to provide the same thing himself as he is demanding from others?
 
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