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[dybmh]

It won't be long before the lockdowns themselves will bypass the damage of the virus itself.

The damage from lock downs will bypass over 250,000 lives lost? That's a remarkable statement.

Don't forget that when these people die, they die isolated from their family.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yeah, the relatives are not even allowed to remove the shroud and see the patient's face. In India, a patient who dies of Corona is wrapped and goes straight to the gas or electric crematorium (with a waiting of nearly six hours, as I am told).

 

[Twilight Hue]

The damage from lock downs will bypass over 250,000 lives lost? That's a remarkable statement.

Don't forget that when these people die, they die isolated from their family.

I'm not minimizing the tragedy of death and loss of loved ones, that said, we must see things in perspective as well. As the adage goes, you don't chop off your nose to spite your face.

People seem to overlook the damage and toll that lockdowns of this nature brings. Mental illness and suicide particularly at the forefront as more and more people lose their means of living and support.

 

[Wandering Monk]

People seem to overlook the damage and toll that lockdowns of this nature brings. Mental illness and suicide particularly at the forefront.

So, let's see the data on suicides and mental illness caused by Covid. Stories don't count as data.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Reopen? Soon there will be no businesses to reopen save for the mega corporations.

While a tragedy, it still warrants a reminder that most people with Covid, a moderately lethal virus, will recover no worse for wear.

The per capita still shows a low death rate with large figures primarily used for its shock value givin the immense population of this country.

258,000 Dead people in 10 months should shock us.

Alarming that it doesn't shock some. Even more alarming is the attempt to minimize such a giant death toll.

 

[Twilight Hue]

258,000 Dead people in 10 months should shock us.

Alarming that it doesn't shock some. Even more alarming is the attempt to minimize such a giant death toll.

Depends on how its viewed.

Shock value from heart disease?

Diabetes?

Auto accidents?

Covid is just another contention we must live with and accept now. Just like any other thing in this life that kills. There is a number that society tolerates and with Covid, I guess that number is still to be determined.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Depends on how its viewed.

Shock value from heart disease?

Diabetes?

Auto accidents?

Covid is just another contention we must live with and accept now. Just like any other thing in this life that kills.

If those numbers are shocking to you, then the COVID deaths should also be quite shocking. Especially given that those numbers are annual numbers while we haven't even made it a whole year with COVID-19 on the radar yet.

Hmm, I don't hear too many people harping on how the flu is worse and the deaths are higher and why doesn't anyone care, since flu deaths surpassed COVID-19 deaths. Funny thing, that.

What we have to do is hold out until the vaccine is ready for mass distribution. Hopefully just a few months longer. There is finally a light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully another 100,000 Americans don't have to needlessly die before we get there.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If those numbers are shocking to you, then the COVID deaths should also be quite shocking. Especially given that those numbers are annual numbers while we haven't even made it a whole year with COVID-19 on the radar yet.

Hmm, I don't hear too many people harping on how the flu is worse and the deaths are higher and why doesn't anyone care, since flu deaths surpassed COVID-19 deaths. Funny thing, that.

What we have to do is hold out until the vaccine is ready for mass distribution. Hopefully just a few months longer. There is finally a light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully another 100,000 Americans don't have to needlessly die before we get there.

I look at metrics and per capita rates. That is the true scope of things or at least the closest you can get to it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I look at metrics and per capita rates. That is the true scope of things or at least the closest you can get to it.

Ok.

 

[Twilight Hue]

All State Comparison of Testing Efforts - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

 

[exchemist]

Depends on how its viewed.

Shock value from heart disease?

Diabetes?

Auto accidents?

Covid is just another contention we must live with and accept now. Just like any other thing in this life that kills. There is a number that society tolerates and with Covid, I guess that number is still to be determined.

What number of premature diabetes deaths does society tolerate? Or car accidents? Or cancer?

I've never seen any number that anyone has said is "tolerable", for any form of life-threatening accident or condition.

This notion that there is a level of premature death that society "tolerates" seems to me to have been invented, just recently.

But in any case, this whole way of thinking about it misses the entire point, which is to avoid your health system being swamped by Covid cases and collapsing, so that nobody can rely on it for any emergency at all.

 

[Wandering Monk]

What number of premature diabetes deaths does society tolerate? Or car accidents? Or cancer?

I've never seen any number that anyone has said is "tolerable", for any form of life-threatening accident or condition.

This notion that there is a level of premature death that society "tolerates" seems to me to have been invented, just recently.

But in any case, this whole way of thinking about it misses the entire point, which is to avoid your health system being swamped by Covid cases and collapsing, so that nobody can rely on it for any emergency at all.

Good point. If there is some level of acceptable deaths, why attempt to reduce those deaths at all?

 

[exchemist]

Good point. If there is some level of acceptable deaths, why attempt to reduce those deaths at all?

Quite. I've come across this argument about tolerable deaths from Covid 19 several times now. Yet the entire basis of our drive to improve health provision is that one premature or avoidable death is one too many. There is no level of premature or avoidable death that is "tolerated". Medicine advances - and so does car safety, by the way - all the time. At no point do people sit back and say "That's good enough, job done".

It's an entirely bogus idea, newly dreamt up to justify letting people die of Covid 19, specifically.

 

[Miken]

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“It turns out that “the Great Reset” is actually an initiative that was started by the World Economic Forum that is designed to get “global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis”. The following comes directly from the official website of the World Economic Forum…”

What Is "The Great Reset"?

Since we have been talking about China in other threads recently, I will mention that the concept of stakeholder does not exist in the Chinese language. When Robert Zoellick went to China representing President Bush he used the word 'stakeholder' several times in his address. The translator had a real problem trying to convey the meaning.

 

[InChrist]

This is a blog, not from the World Economic Forum. Therefore, can be conveniently dismissed as an opinion.

You can go to the World Economic Forum website directly if you like and check out information concerning the Reset.

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[InChrist]

The damage from lock downs will bypass over 250,000 lives lost? That's a remarkable statement.

Don't forget that when these people die, they die isolated from their family.

So sad.

 

[InChrist]

I'm not minimizing the tragedy of death and loss of loved ones, that said, we must see things in perspective as well. As the adage goes, you don't chop off your nose to spite your face.

People seem to overlook the damage and toll that lockdowns of this nature brings. Mental illness and suicide particularly at the forefront as more and more people lose their means of living and support.

Very sad seeing people lose their businesses and livelihoods.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So, let's see the data on suicides and mental illness caused by Covid. Stories don't count as data.

Predictions of more suicides, overdoses and domestic abuse during COVID are coming true
Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the ...
COVID-19 pandemic exacerbates suicide risk factors - PAHO/WHO | Pan American Health Organization

There isn't much hard stats of completed suicides because those are usually collected after the year is over, of course, but the emerging picture is very grim. It's not just suicides but increases in homicides, domestic violence, substance abuse and overdoses. Gun violence has exploded this year in American cities and that situation was already dismal beforehand so you can imagine how horrible it is now. My city's murder rate keeps climbing this year, same as domestic violence this year. Anyone with a hint of common sense could've predicted this would happen. Hell, the entire underlying reason for the civil unrest America experienced earlier in the year was really because of the lockdowns and the economic fallout of it. George Floyd and BLM was just an excuse, really. Over 40 million Americans lost their jobs within a couple of months this spring and then were forced to be shut up at home. Of course there was going to be an explosion of violence, riots and looting. It's simple psychology. I predicted that was going to happen in April and that was before anyone knew who Floyd was.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What number of premature diabetes deaths does society tolerate? Or car accidents? Or cancer?

I've never seen any number that anyone has said is "tolerable", for any form of life-threatening accident or condition.

This notion that there is a level of premature death that society "tolerates" seems to me to have been invented, just recently.

But in any case, this whole way of thinking about it misses the entire point, which is to avoid your health system being swamped by Covid cases and collapsing, so that nobody can rely on it for any emergency at all.

AIDS deaths were certainly acceptable in American society until Ryan White died from it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

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Videos too are not from World Economic Forum.