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More Hillary E-mail leaks...

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That doesn't much distinguish her from her current chief rival, Donald Trump.
Tom
Aye, I care much more about who voted for these spendy deadly wars.
By this criterion, Hildebeast is terrifying.
Trump is merely scary.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Hell, even her accents are fake... She was born in Chicago, marries a guy in Arkansas and suddenly she's speaking with a drawl.
Seeing this again, do you realize accents can change? Over a bunch of reasons? Moving to a new areas is a pretty good to pick up an accent, and in my mom's case, when she gets stressed she starts speaking with a very thick southern drawl. She even gets the phrases and pronunciations. She used to always talk like that when she was a kid.
Nothing about this woman is real..
How about her marriage? No one would have blamed her if she divorced Bill after the Lewenski scandal, but she roughed through it and they're still married. Really, I don't see why the religious right isn't holding her up as a paragon of keeping a family together. Or what about her record on voting for women and children? Those are two areas she actually has a good record with. She is very corporate, but she does have her good and real sides.
 

Wirey

Fartist
How about her marriage? No one would have blamed her if she divorced Bill after the Lewenski scandal, but she roughed through it and they're still married.

That's not how most people read that. She was so hungry for authority that she allowed her husband to publically degrade her just so she could stay close to the seat of power. What kind of modern woman puts up with a husband like that? Everyone here who believes Bill stopped being a horndog once he got Lewinskied please raise your hand. She was willing to be humiliated as long as she got her shot. I hope Sanders buries her.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
That's not how most people read that. She was so hungry for authority that she allowed her husband to publically degrade her just so she could stay close to the seat of power. What kind of modern woman puts up with a husband like that? Everyone here who believes Bill stopped being a horndog once he got Lewinskied please raise your hand. She was willing to be humiliated as long as she got her shot. I hope Sanders buries her.
Unfortunately for the Sanders supporters, he doesn't have a chance. She has the blessing of the Obama and his supporters. The liberal media is pulling for her, making Sanders appear to be a somewhat kindly old man that doesn't have a clue on how this country should be ran.(which he doesn't...but that isn't the point). Hillary has the south, the west coast, the east cost and the majority of the rust belt tied up.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Unfortunately for the Sanders supporters, he doesn't have a chance. She has the blessing of the Obama and his supporters. The liberal media is pulling for her, making Sanders appear to be a somewhat kindly old man that doesn't have a clue on how this country should be ran.(which he doesn't...but that isn't the point). Hillary has the south, the west coast, the east cost and the majority of the rust belt tied up.

That's too bad. Cruz isn't mainstream enough to win, so whomever gets the Democratic nod will almost certainly be the next President. I would hate to see Billary return.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
That's too bad. Cruz isn't mainstream enough to win, so whomever gets the Democratic nod will almost certainly be the next President. I would hate to see Billary return.
Get used to saying Clinton II, like the various Bushes.
At least we will be spared the degradation of a Clinton v Bush campaign. After the last two decades I'm not sure that the USA could stand that.
Tom
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
WHAT?????
Please explain what the H E double hockey sticks you are talking about.

From your quote...

"Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both."

"without authority" is the key. As Secretary of State does she have the authority? I'm guessing any court in the land would say yes.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Seeing this again, do you realize accents can change? Over a bunch of reasons? Moving to a new areas is a pretty good to pick up an accent, and in my mom's case, when she gets stressed she starts speaking with a very thick southern drawl. She even gets the phrases and pronunciations. She used to always talk like that when she was a kid.


I was born in South Carolina and moved up north when I was only 6. I have no southern accent normally, but when we went back to visit friends 20 years later, they noticed I was sounding southern within a few days. I hadn't even noticed.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
That's not how most people read that. She was so hungry for authority that she allowed her husband to publically degrade her just so she could stay close to the seat of power. What kind of modern woman puts up with a husband like that? Everyone here who believes Bill stopped being a horndog once he got Lewinskied please raise your hand. She was willing to be humiliated as long as she got her shot. I hope Sanders buries her.

That is a lot of speculation in one post.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No it is about attempting to get those stupid enough to vote for the Hillary to understand what a self-serving, lying, privileged, person she is. .
And yet you said you would vote for Trump.
 

Wirey

Fartist

Because I fear the naked ambition she displays. The last time I remember seeing someone like that in American politics was Nixon. There is just something about her that makes me decidedly nervous. She has the same air of "I am never wrong" that PET carried, and he wrecked our economy for 20 years.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist


I was born in South Carolina and moved up north when I was only 6. I have no southern accent normally, but when we went back to visit friends 20 years later, they noticed I was sounding southern within a few days. I hadn't even noticed.
Same happens to me with my Yooper accent that gets thicker when we're at our place in da U.P., ya betcha.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Because I fear the naked ambition she displays. The last time I remember seeing someone like that in American politics was Nixon. There is just something about her that makes me decidedly nervous. She has the same air of "I am never wrong" that PET carried, and he wrecked our economy for 20 years.

You just managed to describe every person running for president with the possible exception of Sanders.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
That is a lot of speculation in one post.
I don't think it is.
I also believe that most people see it that way, whether it is true or not.
I believe Hillary made the very calculated decision to stay with Slick Willie, judging that he would be a long term asset.
And once again, she was right.
I'd rather have a coldly calculating battle axe who usually wins running the country than a well meaning bumbler or self indulgent billionaire, which appear to be the other choices.
Well, now that the Republican party has managed to get a grown up through the Iowa caucuses I guess I should start paying some attention to that.
Tom
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I don't think it is.
I also believe that most people see it that way, whether it is true or not.
I believe Hillary made the very calculated decision to stay with Slick Willie, judging that he would be a long term asset.
And once again, she was right.
I'd rather have a coldly calculating battle axe who usually wins running the country than a well meaning bumbler or self indulgent billionaire, which appear to be the other choices.
Well, now that the Republican party has managed to get a grown up through the Iowa caucuses I guess I should start paying some attention to that.
Tom

I've heard a lot of that since the 90's. I just don't see any evidence of it. True that she hasn't come out and publicly explained her actions, but why should she? Maybe I am biased because I've heard her speak in person and even shook her hand once. But she came across as very warm and decent. This doesn't mean I like her policy decisions but as a person I don't see her as any worse than the rest of this field. Not that this is saying much...
 

esmith

Veteran Member
From your quote...

"Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both."

"without authority" is the key. As Secretary of State does she have the authority? I'm guessing any court in the land would say yes.
Nope, they were not in a "secure" location. In her bathroom next to the crapper is not a secure location. In addition she does not have the authority to "retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location".
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Nope, they were not in a "secure" location. In her bathroom next to the crapper is not a secure location. In addition she does not have the authority to "retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location".

You say that, but what does the law say? She was secretary of state after all. Who does have authority under that bill if the Secretary of State doesn't?
 
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