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More than 100 political elites in todays government have slaveholding ancestry.

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Nowhere did it say anything about violence perpetrated against them for refusing to work,
I didn't say violence was perpetrated. I said it was under the threat of "increased punishment". Violence or the threat of violence is not a necessary requirement for someone to be considered to be forced to do something against their will.

it was more like not getting your sentence reduced or less visitation with family.
Or solitary confinement, removal of basic privileges, etc.. That's a means of coercion.

That’s sounds more like privileges taken away rather than punishments.
Because you've just made it up. In reality, prisoners are threatened with confinement, push-back of parole dates and even increased sentences if they don't work.

SOURCES:

Once you are in prison, you lose the right to refuse to work.

To compare that to slavery is an insult to our ancestors who had to go through real slavery.
I don't believe it is as bad as the slave trade, but it IS slavery by any reasonable definition. This is like arguing that we shouldn't call shooting someone in the head murder because torturing someone to death over countless hours is worse. Both can be considered murder. And, in this case, we have involuntary labour being carried out without necessary payment by people who are made to do so under the threat of punishment for the profit of the individuals or organisations they are considered the legal property of. It's pretty explicitly a form of slavery.
 

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
Once you are in prison, you lose the right to refuse to work.

I don't believe it is as bad as the slave trade, but it IS slavery by any reasonable definition. This is like arguing that we shouldn't call shooting someone in the head murder because torturing someone to death over countless hours is worse. Both can be considered murder. And, in this case, we have involuntary labour being carried out without necessary payment by people who are made to do so under the threat of punishment for the profit of the individuals or organisations they are considered the legal property of. It's pretty explicitly a form of slavery.

By definition it's involuntary servitude, not slavery. :)
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Only if they improve those things. Overcrowding is common, inmates cook to death in Texas, die of a fungal infection in California, and the food is low quality junk and carb heavy.

"Overcrowding is common"

Pay them minimum wage, feed then like a cracker barrel restaurant, put them up like the Hilton, plus the free medical, cable, housing, utilities, etc....

That will surely bring down that overcrowding.

People will be beating down the doors to get in.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Exactly! You chose to not break the laws.
Except the laws are so many now, I think it's intentionally designed to entrap and snare people into prison to be used as labor.

Judges already been caught.




That's how slavery works in this country.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Except the laws are so many now, I think it's intentionally designed to entrap and snare people into prison to be used as labor.

Judges already been caught.




That's how slavery works in this country.
Well it hasn't intentionally got me or you or many many milliions that follow the laws so its designed poorly if it only gets people who break the laws :rolleyes:

A little over 11 months in county way back in my younger days was all I needed to know that was enough for me
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
One of my Celtic ancestors living in the deep South was a big-time slaveowner. Today, the only slavery I experience is being one for my wife.
 
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