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Mormon Church refuses to bless children of Same-Sex Couples.

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Sees

Dragonslayer
I think it makes sense that they don't want juveniles as being part of a church that condemns and shuts out their parents... Which wouldn't make sense at all, only adding a conflict between church and home/family.

So with their stance on homosexuality...it just isn't surprising.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Kind of strange that these adults have to openly disavow their parents' gay marriage while the children of murderers, rapists etc are (as far as I know) not expected to disvow the actions of their own parents.

It's not in keeping with the Church's own beliefs as seen below:

Article of Faith #2: "We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression."

As in a person is only responsible for their own sins; not those of their ancestors. And also:

Moses 6:54 "Hence came the saying abroad among the people, that the Son of God hath atoned for original guilt, wherein the sins of the parents cannot be answered upon the heads of the children, for they are whole from the foundation of the world."
 
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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Can't be baptized if you have same sex parents until you are 18? Lol...

You can't disown your parents until you are 18. You can't be a Mormon until you have done that, regardless of your age.

Mormons as a group are extremely family oriented. This anti-family policy won't last long. Some Bishop will get a revelation from God and the homophobic policies will go the way of the policies about polygamy and racism.
Tom
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
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This seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to show their refusal to accept same-sex marriage by targeting children. Can anyone explain how this is morally acceptable according to the teachings of Christ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/11/05/mormon-church-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-couples-from-getting-blessed-and-baptized-until-they-are-18/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name:homepage/story
Come on, surely you remember the bit in the New Testament where Jesus said "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these, unless their parents are faggots in which case **** em, but not in the Catholic way."
 

dust1n

Zindīq
You can't disown your parents until you are 18. You can't be a Mormon until you have done that, regardless of your age.

Kids are brought up Mormon, though, right?

Mormons as a group are extremely family oriented. This anti-family policy won't last long. Some Bishop will get a revelation from God and the homophobic policies will go the way of the policies about polygamy and racism.
Tom

Ugh. The bishops always get to do the revelations. Unfair.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Kids are brought up Mormon, though, right?
There are millions of Mormons. They are not clones of each other. Being "brought up Mormon" isn't much different from being "brought up Catholic", or "brought up Sunni". They're all different.
And there are various versions. The versions that see the reality go on. The ones that don't become an embarrassment to the grandchildren and are then forgotten.

Tom
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
I think it makes sense that they don't want juveniles as being part of a church that condemns and shuts out their parents... Which wouldn't make sense at all, only adding a conflict between church and home/family.

So with their stance on homosexuality...it just isn't surprising.
In their minds, baptism is necessary for salvation, whoever your parents are. Thus, they are denying children salvation because of the "sins" of their parents. There is nothing admirable in that.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
There are millions of Mormons. They are not clones of each other. Being "brought up Mormon" isn't much different from being "brought up Catholic", or "brought up Sunni". They're all different.
And there are various versions. The versions that see the reality go on. The ones that don't become an embarrassment to the grandchildren and are then forgotten.

Tom

Makes sense.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
This anti-family policy won't last long. Some Bishop will get a revelation from God and the homophobic policies will go the way of the policies about polygamy and racism.
That's not quite how it works, Tom, but thanks for your input anyway.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
This seems to be a complication, where the spiritual needs of the children as individuals are at odds with the teaching of the church regarding the status of the parents as a family.

I can not believe that a solution will not be found in due time, as the souls of the children must be seen to take precedence over other considerations.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
In their minds, baptism is necessary for salvation, whoever your parents are. Thus, they are denying children salvation because of the "sins" of their parents. There is nothing admirable in that.
Well, not exactly. While I disagree with the policy, nobody can deny anybody else salvation.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
This seems to be a complication, where the spiritual needs of the children as individuals are at odds with the teaching of the church regarding the status of the parents as a family.

I can not believe that a solution will not be found in due time, as the souls of the children must be seen to take precedence over other considerations.
It seems to me that this is a very childish reaction to the Church not getting their way. Ridicule is warranted, imho.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
This seems like a pretty pathetic attempt to show their refusal to accept same-sex marriage by targeting children. Can anyone explain how this is morally acceptable according to the teachings of Christ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/11/05/mormon-church-to-exclude-children-of-same-sex-couples-from-getting-blessed-and-baptized-until-they-are-18/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name:homepage/story

If they are trying to keep the commandments, they can neither sanction gay marriage or the above. And if that is what they are doing, I applaud them.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
to me that this is a very childish reaction to the Church not getting their way. Ridicule is warranted, imho.

I don't think that is true. It seems to me that it is a theological impass of some complexity.

I rather think they have made the wrong decision and that children who wish to be baptised should be so, even if the parents can not be involved in the process. Any theological problems should be put on hold and sorted in due time.
 
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