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Most high school biology teachers don’t endorse evolution

jmn

Member
Another view is the first self-replicators were groups of catalysts, either protein enzymes or RNA ribozymes, that regenerated themselves as a catalytic cycle . These catalytic cycles could be limited in a small pond or lagoon, or be a catalytic complex adsorbed to either clay or lipid material on clay. Given that there are many catalytic sequences in a group of random peptides or polynucleotides it's not unlikely that a small catalytic complex could be formed.
These two models are not mutually exclusive.
 
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McBell

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jmn

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Another claim often heard is that there is a "life sequence" of 400 proteins, and that the amino acid sequences of these proteins cannot be changed, for organisms to be alive.
This, however, is nonsense. The 400 protein claim seems to come from the protein coding genome of Mycobacterium genetalium, which has the smallest genome currently known of any modern organism. However, inspection of the genome suggests that this could be reduced further to a minimal gene set of 256 proteins . Note again that this is a modern organism. The first protobiont/progenote would have been smaller still, and preceded by even simpler chemical systems.
As to the claim that the sequences of proteins cannot be changed, again this is nonsense. There are in most proteins regions where almost any amino acid can be substituted, and other regions where conservative substitutions (where charged amino acids can be swapped with other charged amino acids, neutral for other neutral amino acids and hydrophobic amino acids for other hydrophobic amino acids) can be made. Some functionally equivalent molecules can have between 30 - 50% of their amino acids different. In fact it is possible to substitute structurally non-identical bacterial proteins for yeast proteins,, and the organisms live quite happily.
The "life sequence" is a myth!
 
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LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Plagiarism is frowned upon on this forum.

Evidence for a Young World - Answers in Genesis
Davies, K., Distribution of supernova remnants in the galaxy, Proceedings of the Third International Conference on Creationism, vol. II, Creation Science Fellowship (1994), Pittsburgh, PA, pp. 175–184

You have got to be kidding. There are creation "science" conference proceedings?

Ironically, the best evidence presented so far here against evolution is how improbable it is that any species relying as much on brain power as our species has survived tens of thousands of years and yet holds international conferences on "creation science".
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Davies, K., Distribution of supernova remnants in the galaxy, Proceedings of the Third International Conference on Creationism, vol. II, Creation Science Fellowship (1994), Pittsburgh, PA, pp. 175–184

You have got to be kidding. There are creation "science" conference proceedings?

Ironically, the best evidence presented so far here against evolution is how improbable it is that any species relying as much on brain power as our species has survived tens of thousands of years and yet holds international conferences on "creation science".
You are both pedantic & wicked.
I am so jealous!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sites I got most arguments from are not copyrighted to present it to you-------and I would just think of an explanation rather than trying to sidestep it...
Even non-copyright protected material must indicate that it's quoted.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Even non-copyright protected material must indicate that it's quoted.

Unfortunately, he's wrong:
"© Copyright 2012 Answers in Genesis" at the bottom of AiG's page means that it IS copyrighted.

Even without (C) it is plagiarism and still dishonest.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Unfortunately, he's wrong:
"© Copyright 2012 Answers in Genesis" at the bottom of AiG's page means that it IS copyrighted.

Even without (C) it is plagiarism and still dishonest.
Ya know....I don't think he's paying any attention to us.
Just here to lecture the heathens, eh?
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
In my view, any biology teacher that speaks about creationism or "intelligent design", in anything but condescending tones, should immediately be fired.

Yes, how dare these teachers think for themselves? Do they not realize the ToE party should be obeyed without question? We cannot permit evidence for a Creator to be considered! Young minds must be indoctrinated so our world view is accepted without question! Otherwise, they might learn the truth...
 
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