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Movie Journal: feminism.

Me Myself

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Okay, I must say I love to do experiments from time to time, and recently I heard of this "Bechdel" test that honestly was a complete eye opener for me.

Most movies winning the Oscar not having passed it already displays and obvious social problem in what women display on the media is concerned.

But honestly, the concept is so new to me, that I feel I haven´t even assimilated it yet. I mean, I mentaly understand there is a problem... but cant help to feel as if nothing has changed for me.

So I will start taking notes on all the movies I see from now on. From this day forward, tuesday july 3 of 2012 to hum... lets say end of the month for now, but maybe I´ll extend it (I want to first put a credible dead line so I dont just think "forever" and forget)

I will mentaly check Bechdel´s test with EVERY movie I see.

For those of yuo who don´t know (and I am only recently (as in today few hours ago) educated) the bechdel test is something that apparently came up on a comedy media (I think comic? I forgot now :p ) but seemed a very good way to see if a movie passes at least the most least and obvious women involvement in a movie. This test has 3 steps:

1- Count if the movie has at least 2 women in it that have names

2-Do they talk to each other without there being males talking with them?

3- Are they having a conversation that doesn´t mention men at least once in the whole movie?


So, I am going to keep this questons in mind every time I see a movie from this day till the end of the month.

Now that I haven´t started yet, I want to ask you:

Which other things that have to do with feminism would you advice me to check in all the following movies?

Do keep in mind though, this is NOT a debate thread, and if I do not see your advice of what to see in the movie about this relevant I may simply not take it, but I do completely appreciate any attempt to give me a helpful advice for it even if I don´t share the view of the advice itself :)

Fun part of this is, that I will actually be having to see more movies than usually. I tend to be kind of limited on the movies I would see I got to admit, and this will expand my horizons at least for this month hopefully.

As a side note, I will be watching how many movies go by without there being ANY women in there who are either the stereotype of: the femme fatale, the "Manic Pixie" and the "Smurfette syndrome" as proposed by this woman:

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#3 The Smurfette Principle (Tropes vs. Women) - YouTube

It is posible (maybe very posible) that I will extend this furthermore after the initial dead line on end of july. Maybe at the end of July I will have some opinions on to what I have learned, or maybe it will be still to little information just one month of this experiment.

In any case, I expect this to be educational and putting it up here, will help me remember the experiment because I visit RF daily :D

It is very posible that I will try to find some way of randomly selecting a movie (ANY movie) to see every two days or so, even if the movie is old. I will limit myself to movies not older than 2005 on for this review though, just as a means to see the subjectively more "recent" movies, as to see how the scenario of gender equality in media is today, and not on my parent´s generation.

In any case... I think I made this too long already. Kind of excited about my new experiment, and I will see what I can learn. Hope to see some suggestions here, but if not, I will just run with what I already established, and any new thing I may come up with.

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Alceste

Vagabond
I just saw Prometheus. It passed the Bechdel test but only because two female characters happened to be the last people alive. Actually, even then I can't remember if they had a conversation. Lol.
 

Me Myself

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I just saw Prometheus. It passed the Bechdel test but only because two female characters happened to be the last people alive. Actually, even then I can't remember if they had a conversation. Lol.

They did and I am sure it wasn´t about men. Actually, in this case the male was the muse in some extent for the woman, so you could say it was a good movie feminist wise by those standards at least. (about male being muse I am talking abot mild manic pisxie syndrom, it is in one of the vidos of the girl quoting SS above)

But it wouldn´t pass the "Mystical pregnancy" bit :D (although I dont see that one as bad at all, but I am counting it in to see if just notting it in the following movies will make me see something I haven´t seen. )

Any suggestions as to what other things I could note? :)
 

Me Myself

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I´ll start to watch a movie before an hour has passed (I haven´t done it yet :cover: but by tomorrow I expect to have seen 3 at least)

If any reader out there has any advice for random movie selection please post it on! I need a random way of choosing movie so the sample is neutral.

The only "need" for the movie to be apt is that it was released in 2005 or after.

That´s all.

So I´ll be waiting to see if you pick up o.o
 

jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
ive heard of this and its a good test.

good luck on finding a way to find random movies. might try a different genre everytime you watch a new movie for more variety and accuracy.
 

Me Myself

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Ok. Decided, I´ll use the link of random trailers.

Just checked it well, and it is just too efficient.

This is the way it is put:

Any movie from 2005 to 2012, of any genre and of any rating.

First option up already:

"The dinner party " I´ll check it out now :O
 
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