Multiple dimensions - maybe a stupid question

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Maybe people who are more knowledgeable than me can help me with something that's been bugging me:

If there are multiple spatial dimensions beyond what we can see, why does it look to us like conservation of energy is obeyed?

I mean, we can't measure kinetic energy of things moving along axes we can't observe, so when a form of energy we can observe (say kinetic energy of movement along an axis we can see) is converted or redirected into kinetic energy we can't measure, it would appear to us that the energy is just being lost.

So what gives? Why do we have physicists saying both that conservation of energy is obeyed in our three spatial dimensions AND that other spatial dimensions exist that we can't see?

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe people who are more knowledgeable than me can help me with something that's been bugging me:

If there are multiple spatial dimensions beyond what we can see, why does it look to us like conservation of energy is obeyed?

I'm not knowledgeable, but I can still speculate.....
It'a a local macro phenomenon which has served us well in the age of heat engines.
But looking at dark energy, it might not apply on a large cosmological scale.
And on the quantum mechanics level, even the standard model is a work in progress.

I mean, we can't measure kinetic energy of things moving along axes we can't observe, so when a form of energy we can observe (say kinetic energy of movement along an axis we can see) is converted or redirected into kinetic energy we can't measure, it would appear to us that the energy is just being lost.

So what gives? Why do we have physicists saying both that conservation of energy is obeyed in our three spatial dimensions AND that other spatial dimensions exist that we can't see?

We live in increasingly interesting times.

 

[bobhikes]

New World encyclopedia

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant. Based on this law, scientists have come to conclude that, in an isolated system, energy is neither created nor destroyed, but it may change form.

The key for me is isolated system. They mention it twice. They are isolating the system to the dimension we are in among other things. Perhaps in a non-isolated system of infinite dimensions there is no conservation of energy.

 

[Iti oj]

I don't think the others are confirmed. Just suggested by math and explanatory power. Needs to be tested

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

9-10ths_Penguin;

So what gives? Why do we have physicists saying both that conservation of energy is obeyed in our three spatial dimensions AND that other spatial dimensions exist that we can't see?

Hmm - Christ actually explained all this way way before any physicist - and yet - what THEY find actually agrees with HIS EXPLANATION - so here I will stick to His every day version first, the basic version is easy to grasp - physicists though must deal with pure maths which soon gets supra complex.....

So he said THIS entire universe is a SEPERATE creation - according to my mate - and other SIMILAR creations, similar universes exist that He said are made TOGETHER - only this one is alone - at first...It is also explained by Him that THIS universe is a slightly different "Light" as He terms it - or "energy" as we would term it.. So everything else OUTSIDE this universe is formed of one kind of energy - and everything HERE is formed of a slightly different kind of energy....In scientific terms - the parameter that determines this difference is the SPEED OF LIGHT itself - literally - a rate of vibration - determines the "solid reality" as it PERCEIVED from WITHIN that domain OF creation...In plain modern English then - this means the senses have to be ATTUNED to decipher the appropriate speed of light / vibration of energy - everything is "benchmarked" according to this standard rate... OTHER higher - or lower - vibrations / light speeds ARE POSSIBLE - science knows this full well - but they cannot be PERCEIVED from within this part of creation - not with "physical senses" that are attuned to our SPECIFIC light speed benchmark....Im trying to keep it simple - but Im sure you (all) get the idea..?...Hence we are not PHYSICALLY CAPABLE of experiencing other "dimensions" that surround us constantly..

The human body a CONSTRUCT - WITHIN - another construct... To appreciate this truth in an experential direct manner then we MUST first - obviously - step OUTSIDE of the body to experience the other realities directly..Many have done this time and time again - Christ taught it specifically.. However - science - can and does VERIFY their existance - through the application of PURE MATHS - which is the essential foundational LOGIC of ALL CREATION - no matter WHAT its energetic arrangement is, it IS all based on the pure LOGIC of the creator - a Divine MIND that Christ names Our Father..

Physicist literally take maths and examine the energetic arrangements they see around us....From the gross material layer of creation, they break it down stage by LOGICAL stage to determine its ORIGINS....What they find - BAFFLES THEM - but leaves them with no other LOGICAL explanation... They at first - classical physics - expected that as they approach the origin, it SHOULD become ever more BASIC in its construction, until eventually they expected they could get just a single equation that would explain it all.... However - the deeper they looked, the more they became baffled - for it does NOT become easier to unravel - it becomes ever more COMPLEX - and pretty soon they had traced back and exhausted all the options that were apparant HERE in all they could DIRECTLY see - and yet questions remained unanswered - equations DO NOT BALANCE from what is apparant HERE - and so logic demanded that OTHER and EXTERNAL parameters MUST be influencing the arrangement HERE from OUTSIDE our closed system... So, they indeed began to look OUTSIDE and even BEFORE this universe closed system even got started...They followed MATHS and LOGIC and so realised that YES INDEED other apsects to Creation DO Exist that are fully OUTSIDE the parameters of THIS universe....For example - all that time they BELIEVED that speed of Light was CONSTANT and that literally NOTHING could be "faster" - and yet they find just one little "particle" such as a NEUTRINO and straight away they realised their previous logic is incomplete - things exist that DO go "faster than light" - MANY things - and they only now touch the tip of that iceberg - but the arrangement to all creation is indeed pivotal around that Light speed benchmark itself, just as they surmise when Einstein told us e=mC2 is a base rule that to creation - determines the STRUCTURE of MATERIAL objects - we work it out BACKWARDS and derive "energy" FROM object - but really it is object derived from ENERGY

There is a LOT still for science to uncover here - but occasionally they get their eureka moments - and EVERYTHING thus far uncovered by modern quantum science is as said fully in accord with the truth that Christ already delivered.. For instance - He says that ALL creation comes forth from a DIVINE MIND - apply the WILL(power) and literally CAUSE the material world to manifest as "solid".... Compared to science that discoverd a weird phenomena -they call it an "observer paradox2 whereby it seems that the actual PRESENCE of the scientist is AFFECTING their own results....Literally as if EXPECTATION affects OUTCOME - literally as if MIND and WILL affect outcome

Yes - there is a lot for them to learn with their step by step mathematical approach ...Much much easier to trust Christ - learn to know the Self fully, so that we may literally step outside of the mortal world and know such truths directly...When they speak of "other dimensions" or a "multiverse" that is EXACTLY the same as when many here speak of SPIRITUAL REALITY and its direct access and experience....

 

[Skwim]

Let me 'splain it.

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[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

Skwim; Just goes to show what I said earlier - its far far easier to just step outside the body and experience it directly - and for that we need the mind to actually be a "blank slate" entirely

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Hi Folks..

Skwim; Just goes to show what I said earlier - its far far easier to just step outside the body and experience it directly - and for that we need the mind to actually be a "blank slate" entirely

Please stop derailing my thread. I started it to hopefully get a real answer, not to give you a chance to shill for your religion.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks...

Penguin; Its hardly derailing it - I ALREADY gave you a legitimate answer - even from a scientific perspective I already gave you a legitimate answer - in that you can NEVER know or experience these other realities you ponder simply because your PHYSICAL SENSES PROHIBIT IT....

And further to that I told you that science uses the PURE LOGIC OF MATHS which shows them beyond any reasonable doubt that such other dimensions MUST exist - they are vital to explain THIS arrangement HERE in THIS dimension - as said all evidence points TO that LOGICAL conclusion that there are things apparant OUTSIDE this universe that inflluence and affect us here...ergo - other similar universes MUST exist they say...

Having explained all that I then said there is a sure fire method to actually experience these other realities directly for the Self - but it would entail leaving the physical body and physical realm of existance, which is entirely possible for those who know how...

So - come again..??...HOW am I derailing anything..??...You are asking questions about energy and the layout and arrangement to the created realities as we perceive and understand them - Iam explaining how and why they are arranged that way and how to perceive them more fully and thus likewise understand them more fully

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Hi Folks...

Penguin; Its hardly derailing it - I ALREADY gave you a legitimate answer - even from a scientific perspective I already gave you a legitimate answer - in that you can NEVER know or experience these other realities you ponder simply because your PHYSICAL SENSES PROHIBIT IT....

And further to that I told you that science uses the PURE LOGIC OF MATHS which shows them beyond any reasonable doubt that such other dimensions MUST exist - they are vital to explain THIS arrangement HERE in THIS dimension - as said all evidence points TO that LOGICAL conclusion that there are things apparant OUTSIDE this universe that inflluence and affect us here...ergo - other similar universes MUST exist they say...

Having explained all that I then said there is a sure fire method to actually experience these other realities directly for the Self - but it would entail leaving the physical body and physical realm of existance, which is entirely possible for those who know how...

So - come again..??...HOW am I derailing anything..??...You are asking questions about energy and the layout and arrangement to the created realities as we perceive and understand them - Iam explaining how and why they are arranged that way and how to perceive them more fully and thus likewise understand them more fully

On your first post in the thread, I saw that there was ignored content. Hoping that it might be a useful post, I clicked "show". Since that point, all of your posts in this thread have reminded me why I had you on ignore in the first place.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

Penguin; lol - sorry mate - but Im not responsible for you changing your mind now am I..?... lol....so because you flustered your own self Im the one that takes the blame - yer I see how it goes...lol...

Look ignore me or not - your choice your loss...Here I HAVE answered the points you made though - fully on topic - and no its not really a "religion" lol though plenty make the mistake of following religions that bare HIS name....But essentially, it is a universal METAPHYSICAL truth He spoke - I verify it from the direct experiences - it is wholly pertinant to your scientific questions and as said everything THEY now say Christ ALREADY said in other easy to follow words...Wheres the problem then..??...

You say you started this thread to get "real answer" - but - what if the answer I gave from Him,IS the real answer after all ..??....

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You say you started this thread to get "real answer" - but - what if the answer I gave from Him,IS the real answer after all ..??....

Go away. Peddle your all-caps nonsense somewhere else.

 

[HonestJoe]

Maybe people who are more knowledgeable than me can help me with something that's been bugging me:

If there are multiple spatial dimensions beyond what we can see, why does it look to us like conservation of energy is obeyed?

I’m no expert either but I was under the impression that is doesn’t look like it is. That’s why things like dark matter and dark energy have been hypothesised. Maybe the reason we’re having trouble pinning them down is to do with them crossing different dimensions.