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Murders vs Electoral Map

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free to Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:

Birmingham, AL - Democrat
Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
Newark, NJ - Democrat
Dayton, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Atlanta, GA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Little Rock, AR - Democrat
Jackson, MS - Democrat
Baton Rouge, LA - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
Memphis, TN - Democrat
Stockton, CA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Oakland, CA - Democrat
Bridgeport, CT - Democrat
Buffalo, NY - Democrat
Baltimore, MD - Democrat
St. Louis, MO - Democrat
New Orleans, LA - Democrat
Minneapolis, MN - Democrat
Cincinnati, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Detroit, MI - Democrat
New Haven, CT - Democrat
Kansas City, MO - Democrat
Flint, MI - Democrat
Hartford, CT - Democrat

(dis)Honorable mentions:

Miami, FL - Democrat
Los Angeles, CA - Democrat
Chicago, IL - Democrat
Houston, TX - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
New York, NY - Democrat

The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...
 
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shmogie

Well-Known Member
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free too Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:

Birmingham, AL - Democrat
Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
Newark, NJ - Democrat
Dayton, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Atlanta, GA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Little Rock, AR - Democrat
Jackson, MS - Democrat
Baton Rouge, LA - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
Memphis, TN - Democrat
Stockton, CA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Oakland, CA - Democrat
Bridgeport, CT - Democrat
Buffalo, NY - Democrat
Baltimore, MD - Democrat
St. Louis, MO - Democrat
New Orleans, LA - Democrat
Minneapolis, MN - Democrat
Cincinnati, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Detroit, MI - Democrat
New Haven, CT - Democrat
Kansas City, MO - Democrat
Flint, MI - Democrat
Hartford, CT - Democrat

(dis)Honorable mentions:

Miami, FL - Democrat
Los Angeles, CA - Democrat
Chicago, IL - Democrat
Houston, TX - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
New York, NY - Democrat

The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...
Very simple. democrats have been in charge of the major murder cities for a long time. They have taken billions in money to improve conditions for their citizens, and poverty is worse. Because of the unions, the schools in these city's are producing illiterates. On the other hand, democrats deplore the idea of accountability and self reliance. They have convinced their citizens that goodies from them somehow is what a person should aspire to. So they are thrilled with a free phone and food stamps, and keep voting in their keepers
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free too Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:

Birmingham, AL - Democrat
Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
Newark, NJ - Democrat
Dayton, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Atlanta, GA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Little Rock, AR - Democrat
Jackson, MS - Democrat
Baton Rouge, LA - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
Memphis, TN - Democrat
Stockton, CA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Oakland, CA - Democrat
Bridgeport, CT - Democrat
Buffalo, NY - Democrat
Baltimore, MD - Democrat
St. Louis, MO - Democrat
New Orleans, LA - Democrat
Minneapolis, MN - Democrat
Cincinnati, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Detroit, MI - Democrat
New Haven, CT - Democrat
Kansas City, MO - Democrat
Flint, MI - Democrat
Hartford, CT - Democrat

(dis)Honorable mentions:

Miami, FL - Democrat
Los Angeles, CA - Democrat
Chicago, IL - Democrat
Houston, TX - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
New York, NY - Democrat

The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...
Also the most political corruption occurs in the Democrat party not to mention the most prone to be most violent when they don't get their way.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free too Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:

Birmingham, AL - Democrat
Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
Newark, NJ - Democrat
Dayton, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Atlanta, GA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Little Rock, AR - Democrat
Jackson, MS - Democrat
Baton Rouge, LA - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
Memphis, TN - Democrat
Stockton, CA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Oakland, CA - Democrat
Bridgeport, CT - Democrat
Buffalo, NY - Democrat
Baltimore, MD - Democrat
St. Louis, MO - Democrat
New Orleans, LA - Democrat
Minneapolis, MN - Democrat
Cincinnati, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Detroit, MI - Democrat
New Haven, CT - Democrat
Kansas City, MO - Democrat
Flint, MI - Democrat
Hartford, CT - Democrat

(dis)Honorable mentions:

Miami, FL - Democrat
Los Angeles, CA - Democrat
Chicago, IL - Democrat
Houston, TX - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
New York, NY - Democrat

The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...
South has most murders.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4
 

Shad

Veteran Member
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free too Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:

Birmingham, AL - Democrat
Philadelphia, PA - Democrat
Newark, NJ - Democrat
Dayton, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Atlanta, GA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Little Rock, AR - Democrat
Jackson, MS - Democrat
Baton Rouge, LA - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Milwaukee, WI - Democrat
Memphis, TN - Democrat
Stockton, CA - Democrat
Cleveland, OH - Democrat
Oakland, CA - Democrat
Bridgeport, CT - Democrat
Buffalo, NY - Democrat
Baltimore, MD - Democrat
St. Louis, MO - Democrat
New Orleans, LA - Democrat
Minneapolis, MN - Democrat
Cincinnati, OH - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
Detroit, MI - Democrat
New Haven, CT - Democrat
Kansas City, MO - Democrat
Flint, MI - Democrat
Hartford, CT - Democrat

(dis)Honorable mentions:

Miami, FL - Democrat
Los Angeles, CA - Democrat
Chicago, IL - Democrat
Houston, TX - Democrat (but only by a small margin)
New York, NY - Democrat

The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...

Without the source I question your post as you have already demonstrated you post fake news while being unable to figure out it is fake. As per your Yale university story.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
This is NOT taken from some of those fake maps that have been circulating around. Instead, this is taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015. That data is then compared to how a majority of the people in those cities voted in the 2016 election. Feel free too Google city murder rates and then compare that to city elections. Here we go...

In no particular order:



The data shows that the highest murder rates are in cities that are predominantly Democrat in political affiliation. The question is, why? Let the theories begin...

Can we get a Murder rate for Big Cities that are Republican in affiliation to compare?

Without such information I would say. Big Cities are going to attract crime small location and a lot of people easy to find target. Rural cities Large area and small population very hard to run a crime syndicate. Big cities large minority groups will be Democrat. Rural areas can be so small just family members live there so have an equal chance of being Republican or Democrat.

Can we get numbers for rural Republican cities vs rural democratic cities of a similar population? That would probably show something useful.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Let me reiterate something, since some people missed it: ...taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Let me reiterate something, since some people missed it: ...taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015.
Did the FBI put Democrat after the name of the city?
Or was that someone else?
Tom
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Let me reiterate something, since some people missed it: ...taken from the FBI's crime stats and the listing is for the top 25 cities for murders in the US (per 100,000 people), for the year of 2015.

Where did the Republican cities over 100,000 people list for the year 2015. With out a comparison it is useless. All cities over 100,000 could be democrat for all I know.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Did the FBI put Democrat after the name of the city?
Or was that someone else?
Tom

Uh, no. :shrug:

Not sure what you (or others) are trying to get at. Those were the top 25 cities for murder per 100,000 people in 2015 (FBI crime stats). The political affiliation (majority) is the result of the 2016 presidential election (feel free to Google each city). It is not that hard to look at the data.

It is what it is.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Where did the Republican cities over 100,000 people list for the year 2015. With out a comparison it is useless. All cities over 100,000 could be democrat for all I know.

I don't know as I looked at the top 25 cities, and coincidentally they were all Democrat. :shrug:
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Learn to read. The OP stated that it was not taken from a fake map. The FBI and election results are out there. Do a little digging.

A claim is not a source. I asked for the source already. You have yet to provide one. Do you own work to support your claim, if you can not that is your problem. I do not need to do your work for you to support your claim. You have an assertion, nothing more

Try again son. Lets flip the argument around. You source is a lie, you can find out if you do a little digging. Do you accept my assertion? You should as already think an argument from assertion is valid and sound.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
That this thread is total spin.
That you are implying that Democrats commit murder at higher rates than your party.
Tom

By my party, do you mean the Libertarians? Well hell yes Democrats commit murder at higher rates than Libertarians!

It's not a spin. It is raw data based off the FBI crime stats and election results per city. Not that hard to understand.
 

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
A claim is not a source. I asked for the source already. You have yet to provide one. Do you own work to support your claim, if you can not that is your problem. I do not need to do your work for you to support your claim. You have an assertion, nothing more

Try again son. Lets flip the argument around. You source is a lie, you can find out if you do a little digging. Do you accept my assertion? You should as already think an argument from assertion is valid and sound.

Source: FBI stats and election results per city.

Are you saying that the FBI and the pollsters are all part of a big conspiracy and they lied about crime stats and the election results? :rolleyes:

Addendum: since some of you aren't getting it...

FBI crime stats: Google it. Public info. Look at murder rates per year, and the cities that had the highest per 100,00 people.

Election results: Google it. City by city.

Combine the two data fields. Presto! Not that freaking hard.

Now that we have that out of the way, WHY is this happening in those cities? Why is it that heavy Democrat leaning cities have the top 25 spots? That is the topic of discussion.
 
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shmogie

Well-Known Member
democrats live in fantasy world, the little snowflakes. They ALWAYS question and prevaricate re facts, they just don't like them very much when they crash in on the fantasy. Witness them in the streets rioting, ah, poor baby's, whaaaa, we are so sad. Conservatives put up with osama bin obama, in two elections, not one riot.
 
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