Muslim family kicked off United Airlines flight for ‘how they looked’

[Jumi]

Islamic headscarf is typically specially modest/conserved and worn on modest/conserved cloths. Almost all women dressed like that in normal conditions are expected to be Muslims by people around the world, if not all of them.

But it's no different in any other way I suppose to the older generations especially in the countryside that used to wear them here. Except there was not much in the way of cosmetics used back then.

Grannies here used to wear something similar to the old Russian style:

 

[Smart_Guy]

But it's no different in any other way I suppose to the older generations especially in the countryside that used to wear them here. Except there was not much in the way of cosmetics used back then.

Grannies here used to wear something similar to the old Russian style:

No arguing that. But the reception of Muslim women because of their looks wearing the Islamic headscarf is undoubtedly how I mentioned it, I'm afraid. If people these in public see a woman wearing it as I described, they will most likely expect she's Muslim, if they know about Islam.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you sit beside the emergency exit door you are asked if you are willing to open it if needed, and you are told how heavy it is. If for some reason one of the adults declined to do that, there could have been a tense discussion about it and that staff made the call that the person should be removed. The fact they had kids with them is irrelevant.

Another possibility is that one of the adults caused a scene for some reason, it happens, and staff have to put the safety of other passengers first.

We don't have enough info so speculation about a religious angle at this point is just mischievous IMO.

As soon as I read about the request for special seat belts for the kids, I began to suspect this as the cause of the family's problems.
A pilot could interpret it as a challenge to his or the airline's safety protocols.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It's the children. Look at them, those little terrorists. Islam corrupts children so even Muslim children are evil, right?

Unfortunate incident. But yes, children are trained for terrorism by IS, Pakistan and elsewhere.

More at https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Pakistan+children+trained+for+terrorism&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1LENP_enIN576IN576&espv=2&biw=1455&bih=705&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJ4qnpxfLLAhULno4KHbMlDXIQsAQIHg#imgrc=Ms4n3Izq-edhHM:

'It's fun doing this,' says captured terrorist Mohammad Naved who came in from Pakistan:

He is barely out of teens, a sixth standard drop-out, sort of retard, participated in killing two Indian Paramilitary personnel, has no idea of what the consequences of his action will be. It is hard even to punish these people.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...o-came-from-Pakistan/articleshow/48361636.cms

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Written April 1, hence a fake. Hmmm... after a quick google, it seems to be real. That's nuts.

April Fools' Day sucks for that, doesn't it? Because all the stupid things that happen in the world get mingled in with equally asinine things that are fake.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Unfortunate incident. But yes, children are trained for terrorism by IS, Pakistan and elsewhere.

Key words in red. Nice try tho, specially using ambiguous words like "elsewhere"

 

[Aupmanyav]

Well, Nigeria, Mali, Somalia - although I have not checked.
Thankfully, we don't have the problem. Our 175 million Muslims live and travel in peace (mostly). Many of the pilots will be Muslim. (BTW, PM Modi is in Saudi Arabia today. Will travel to Israel later. We have more than 6 times the number of Muslims in Saudi Arabia)

 

[Smart_Guy]

You forgot planet earth

 

[Sunstone]

This doesn't look good on the surface, but the media can be off at times. I will be interested in what, if any, follow up there is on this news a few days from now.

Meanwhile, I suggest we all stubbornly cling to our preconceived, ideologically fueled notions as to what really happened here. I for one, am not above doing that. It's funner that way!

 

[Buttercup]

If you sit beside the emergency exit door you are asked if you are willing to open it if needed, and you are told how heavy it is. If for some reason one of the adults declined to do that, there could have been a tense discussion about it and that staff made the call that the person should be removed. The fact they had kids with them is irrelevant.
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A family with children would never be positioned on an emergency exit row. That scenario would have been changed pronto. So, I'm sure that's not it.

 

[George-ananda]

Muslims do have looks too. It was a family and the woman wears the Islamic headscarf as seen in the photo.

I understand that, but you haven't shown any connection between the headscarf and the family being asked to leave the plane. That is my point. If all peoples are to get along then insinuations of discrimination without sufficient evidence are detrimental too.

 

[Smart_Guy]

But it's no different in any other way I suppose to the older generations especially in the countryside that used to wear them here. Except there was not much in the way of cosmetics used back then.

Grannies here used to wear something similar to the old Russian style:

Sorry, the pic was blocked at work and I saw it just now.

These ladies wear those scarves to protect from the cold and they look like blankets. Still tho, Muslim women wearing headscarves are easily distinguished in a community with non Muslims around.

I understand that, but you haven't shown any connection between the headscarf and the family being asked to leave the plane. That is my point. If all peoples are to get along then insinuations of discrimination without sufficient evidence are detrimental too.

I did! Almost the whole educated world now knows what a Muslim woman in a head scarf looks like. The father and the children where with here which easily give the impression they were a family.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I understand that, but you haven't shown any connection between the headscarf and the family being asked to leave the plane. That is my point. If all peoples are to get along then insinuations of discrimination without sufficient evidence are detrimental too.

But frankly, it is not like they were really kicked out for being Muslims. It is still a possibility tho.

 

[George-ananda]

I did! Almost the whole educated world now knows what a Muslim woman in a head scarf looks like. The father and the children where with here which easily give the impression they were a family.

We must not be understanding each other. I know the family looked Muslim to most people and probably were Muslim. My point is I see no evidence of a connection between them looking Muslim and them being asked to leave the plane at this point.

 

[George-ananda]

But frankly, it is not like they were really kicked out for being Muslims. It is still a possibility tho.

So why does the media jump on this story? My answer would be such insinuations stir up emotion and gets the media outlet attention. And people feel more suspicious and divided as a result.

 

[Smart_Guy]

We must not be understanding each other. I know the family looked Muslim to most people and probably were Muslim. My point is I see no evidence of a connection between them looking Muslim and them being asked to leave the plane at this point.

Ah, some people from all around the world keep generalizing terrorism to Muslims! You didn't know that? Even some Sikhs have been violated for just looking like Muslims.

 

[Smart_Guy]

So why does the media jump on this story? My answer would be such insinuations stir up emotion and gets the media outlet attention. And people feel more suspicious and divided as a result.

It could be to get ratings. The media has been doing similar things against Muslims as well all the time; jumping on many stories with twists against Muslims. It can do it now putting Muslims as victims to gain ratings another way.

 

[George-ananda]

Ah, some people from all around the world keep generalizing terrorism to Muslims! You didn't know that? Even some Sikhs have been violated for just looking like Muslims.

I am well aware of that. But I have not heard evidence that those facts relate to this story.

 

[George-ananda]

It could be to get ratings. The media has been doing similar things against Muslims as well all the time; jumping on many stories with twists against Muslims. It can do it now putting Muslims as victims to gain ratings another way.

Ahh, we are starting to agree

 

[Smart_Guy]

I am well aware of that. But I have not heard evidence that those facts relate to this story.

Well, the flight attendants or the airlines won't just tell why they did it if it truly is about being Muslims.