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Muslim opinions of Israel

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Well, I noticed that you are quick to insult people and very impatient with their faults , so I was pointing out that your prophet also had many faults, therefore you should be patient with the shortcomings of others.

I haven't insulted anyone but now you are insulting our intelligence.

You know what my question was, it's just you insisted I study someone else's answer. I was wanting your answer, not theirs.

I'll let it go because apparently you don't have an answer. That's okay...

Your question had nothing to do with this thread, popeadope. You did try to "bait n switch" when this thread is about Jerusalem, Israel and Muslim opinions regarding this - which I have given - and this thread is not about what you think the Prophet Muhammad pbuh was like in history. If you want to talk about that - make a thread. Stop going off topic, because all I am seeing is you behaving somewhat, staggered and unhinged and without method nor are you showing any etiquette here to entertain a premise on its merit. All you are doing, is making this thread about something irrelevant to the discussion. Ironically, it seems like you are the one who is fishing for "reactions" here ;) and that's what trolls do online.

Peace.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I haven't insulted anyone but now you are insulting our intelligence.



Your question had nothing to do with this thread, popeadope. You did try to "bait n switch" when this thread is about Jerusalem, Israel and Muslim opinions regarding this - which I have given - and this thread is not about what you think the Prophet Muhammad pbuh was like in history. If you want to talk about that - make a thread. Stop going off topic, because all I am seeing is you behaving somewhat, staggered and unhinged and without method nor are you showing any etiquette here to entertain a premise on its merit. All you are doing, is making this thread about something irrelevant to the discussion. Ironically, it seems like you are the one who is fishing for "reactions" here ;) and that's what trolls do online.

Peace.
You know what the question was. No need to play games.

My question was regarding why Allah gives victory to the more secular nations in our modern times, rather than to those who pray to him five times a day and fast.

I was wanting your opinion and instead you asked me to study someone else's answer.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Sure, it is a fulfillment of prophecy... that doesn't explain why God gives victory to his enemies and defeat to his followers.

I'm simply wondering your opinion, not someone else's.
 

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
You know what the question was. No need to play games.

My question was regarding why Allah gives victory to the more secular nations in our modern times, rather than to those who pray to him five times a day and fast.

I was wanting your opinion and instead you asked me to study someone else's answer.

I answered that already ;)

Way to take a thread offtopic Popadope :D
All this was prophesied popeadope, do you believe in prophecy? Even if it is from the Muslim faith?

I can show you prophecies which will blow your mind - for example - in the Quran chapter al anbiyah ayahs 95/96 spell it clearly:

And there is prohibition upon [the people of] a city which We have destroyed that they will [ever] return

Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend

Traditionally the "city" in question has been named as Jerusalem. And this verse is foretelling of the end time when the world is ruled by inequity and injustice among mankind - there are other verses too as well as ahadeeth which flesh out the skeletal understanding of the judeo-christian childlike hubris on these matters.

Peace
These aren't holy wars you are claiming !!! They are wholly political and secular and Muslims are being pulled into them because they are happening inside of nations that are majority Muslim !!!

There you go.

Contextualise your premise young blood!

You don't study do you?

Why did God let Christians lose the wars? Or Jews lose wars? In history ?

You see popeadope, when the table turns and the questions are asked of the people of scripture, the answer is always the same !!! The funny thing here is that you cannot see it!

My advice? Go study the questions you are asking - evidently you don't take answers from people who do not reflect your uneducated belief system which is, of course, very personally invested by you - albeit unjustified as that is.

Peace

It just seems that you, Popeadope, are lazy in seeking the answers even after i've left a trail of breadcrumbs for you to follow. Small wonder you are shifting topic via your BAIT N SWITCH tactic...

I had to even make a post about it:

Are you asking about Israel or the prophet muhammad pbuh? This thread says Israel and your bait n switch says otherwise !!!!

Peace

popeadope, you are taking it low bro, low,

Peace
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I answered that already ;)

Way to take a thread offtopic Popadope :D





It just seems that you, Popeadope, are lazy in seeking the answers even after i've left a trail of breadcrumbs for you to follow. Small wonder you are shifting topic via your BAIT N SWITCH tactic...

I had to even make a post about it:



popeadope, you are taking it low bro, low,

Peace
Actually the question was on topic because it has to do with why God let the Arab nations be defeated by a more secular nation that was pitifully outnumbered.

You never answered the question.

But that's okay... have a nice day! :)
 

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Actually the question was on topic because it has to do with why God let the Arab nations be defeated by a more secular nation that was pitifully outnumbered.

You never answered the question.

But that's okay... have a nice day! :)

I notice your threads tend to bomb due to your inability to keep the OP relevant :D

have a nice day yourself ;)

Peace
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
popeadope, you are taking it low bro, low,

Peace
Well, you should be patient with people. Your prophet did some very low things.

I only brought that up because I saw how quick you are to be hypercritical, insulting, and impatient with the faults of others , but so accepting of the faults of your prophet.
 

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Well, you should be patient with people. Your prophet did some very low things.

I only brought that up because I saw how quick you are to be hypercritical, insulting, and impatient with the faults of others , but so accepting of the faults of your prophet.

Dude. chill!!!
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Actually the question was on topic because it has to do with why God let the Arab nations be defeated by a more secular nation that was pitifully outnumbered.

You never answered the question.

But that's okay... have a nice day! :)

The answer is very simple.

because of the many jihadis today as the one in this video


And less of this one but are increasing recently.

 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
LuisDantas said:
I thought Jerusalem (specifically the Al Aqsa Mosque ) had religious significance for Muslims, albeit not as much as Makkah and Medina?

Not in terms of fulfilling any sort of pilgrimage - it's an holy site, sure, but hardly integral to a Muslims obligations. Which is why we have Mecca !!! Where the pilgrims go. Tourists go to al aqsa in Jerusalem !!!

Mohsen is correct, Jerusalem is not an important place in the Quran. It isn't mentioned a single time by name in the entire book. That's why when the arabs had political control of the area, Jerusalem was neglected and the palestinian area was a wasteland.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Mohsen is correct, Jerusalem is not an important place in the Quran. It isn't mentioned a single time by name in the entire book. That's why when the arabs had political control of the area, Jerusalem was neglected and the palestinian area was a wasteland.

Since when it was a wasteland?

 

MohammadPali

Active Member
Israel had support of super powers. The egyptians could have beat israel, if nixon didn't threaten to use nuclear weapons. Saddam hussein was stationed in syria and was going to also join the fray until hafaez assad to him to stop, because israel signed a treaty with egypt.

Who the hell says gods with israel lol, god has destroyed them more times than anyone else. You think they would learn a lesson ? And the last thing we need is greco-roman diety to tell us whos on whos side ? The muslims treated the jews throughout history as the people of the book. Treated them with respect and diginity the greco-romans didn't think was necessary.

The city of david is where the temple used to be, and as jesus said, not one stone will be left unturned....the romans when they destroyed the temple, they didn't just destroy it, they melted it. It was made of gold and silver trimmings, and linings all across. The romans melted it the gold right off the temple. It melted all the way to the foundation stone.

Which is why they even took the stone the gold melted on. ALL the way to the foundation stone. And to make sure they took every last piece of the temple, they raised the entire mountain, and leveled the earth.

There was nothing there left. It was earth. The dome of the rock is where jesus and mohammad peace be upon went to heaven. It has nothing do with judaism. That area was a roman fort. It housed some 10,000 romans.

The way I see it and its unfortunate, I believe that paul was an infiltrator of the christian faith. He helped kill the apostle Stephen, theres no doubt about that, you can't deny it. And he also was involved in the murder of james the just.

Immediately after james the just was killed the revolt against the romans started. And the excuse to destroy the temple was decreed.

This was robbery, it wasn't an uprising. This was hatched by very important men who had infiltrated both sides.
 

MohammadPali

Active Member
The next messiah that comes, might not even build a temple. You know why ? Because in Ezekiel Wherewith shall I come before the Lord … with burnt‑offerings?…It hath been told thee, 0 man, what is good … to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God

Ezekiel is even is highly critical of israel, more than the arabs and the muslims and the phrophet mohammad peace be upon him.

Change the title, of this thread, what does ezekiel think of israel lol. Read it, its very interesting.
 
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