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Muslims condemn the Paris Attacks

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
So far all muslim scholars from West condemned the attack. The attacks are not in the interest of muslim communities in West. It will only increase the rightwing and anti-islam groups.
Besides Allah swt told us to be patient with the idolworshippers and the disbelievers when they insult the religion.

The correct conduct is to be patient and to pray for their guidance.


If some muslims cant and dont want to be patient, then atleast sue them. Bring it to the court.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
I am sad that your religion was insulted so......
However, 6 million Muslims in France did nothing against the cartoonists who attacked their religion.
Only three Muslim criminals responded so....
We must hold on to that....


These insults are annoying, but come on we are not small children.
Their insults cant harm Allah swt and neither the Messenger pbuh. I believe it only harms them(islambashers, cartoonists) their fate in hereafter.
But unfortunately some muslims take matters into their own hands without consulting the scholars how to behave with such insults. They would be advised to be patient and to focuss on worship.
 

Woodrow LI

IB Ambassador
I am sad that your religion was insulted so......
However, 6 million Muslims in France did nothing against the cartoonists who attacked their religion.
Only three Muslim criminals responded so....
We must hold on to that....

It seems only a JEWISH news source mentioned this

France's Muslim leadership sharply condemned the shooting at a Paris satirical weekly that left at least 12 people dead as a "barbaric" attack and an assault on press freedom and democracy, AFP reports Wednesday.

"This extremely grave barbaric action is also an attack against democracy and the freedom of the press," the French Muslim Council (CFCM) said in a statement.

The body represents France's Muslim community, which is Europe's biggest and estimated to number between 3.5 million and five million people.

SOURCE French Muslim Leaders Condemn Charlie Hebdo Attack - Global Agenda - News - Arutz Sheva
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I am sad that your religion was insulted so......
However, 6 million Muslims in France did nothing against the cartoonists who attacked their religion.
Only three Muslim criminals responded so....
We must hold on to that....

No kidding? So I wonder who the other muslims were that provided the "3" with guidance, weapons, and training.
Are you that gullible?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Prejudice? No, just common sense. These "3" didn't act alone.
Are you that gulible?

I was a better detective than you will ever be.
Over three decades. And a Detective trainer.....
Now.......... Wait, until we know more.
You are just an amateur, my friend. I was a pro....... :p
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
don't defend these terrorists!?? it was a professional job!

Really?
Tell us more........
Tell us where they are.....
Tell us where they trained...
Tell us everything....
But you know nothing......
We will know when the evidence will be presented....

What do you do for a living? You certainly don't deal in evidence or investigation......
 

john2054

Member
what do i do for a living? what has that got to do with the burkha of the day? we know they had skills by the way they moved and handled a gun. it would seem that they were trained in syria. now i will ask you the questions. how old are you and are you married? oh yeah and i am an undergraduate student okay?
 

john2054

Member
Really?
Tell us more........
Tell us where they are.....
Tell us where they trained...
Tell us everything....
But you know nothing......
We will know when the evidence will be presented....

What do you do for a living? You certainly don't deal in evidence or investigation......
reply to you
 

Woodrow LI

IB Ambassador
what do i do for a living? what has that got to do with the burkha of the day? we know they had skills by the way they moved and handled a gun. it would seem that they were trained in syria. now i will ask you the questions. how old are you and are you married? oh yeah and i am an undergraduate student okay?

They couldn't have known it at the time, but viewers of a French TV documentary on extremism in 2005 got a close look at one of the two suspects wanted in yesterday's carnage in Paris. Cherif Kouachi, now 32, appears as a "lanky young man" who, according to the narrator, was happier to spend time with girls than at the mosque, reports AP. "He appears relaxed and smiling as he pals around with friends," and at one point is shown rapping while wearing a backward baseball cap. About a year after it aired, he was arrested for trying to join fighters in Iraq, though he was depicted during the trial as having fallen in with the wrong crowd. A former lawyer says the 18 months he spent in prison seemed to have hardened him.

In 2011, Charif traveled to Yemen and underwent terrorist training with the al-Qaeda affiliate there, reports the New York Times. The training lasted a "few months" and covered small-arms combat and marksmanship. Less is known about his brother Said, 34, though both men have been on the US no-fly list for years, reports NBC News. US officials still don't know whether the brothers, who remain at large, acted on their own or received orders from an al-Qaeda leader. A third suspect, Mourad Hamyd, 18, turned himself in after hearing his name on the news but says he had nothing to do with the murders. (The shooters specifically sought out the editor of Charlie Hebdo during the attack.)

SOURCE One Paris Suspect Was in TV Program on Extremism
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
They couldn't have known it at the time, but viewers of a French TV documentary on extremism in 2005 got a close look at one of the two suspects wanted in yesterday's carnage in Paris. Cherif Kouachi, now 32, appears as a "lanky young man" who, according to the narrator, was happier to spend time with girls than at the mosque, reports AP. "He appears relaxed and smiling as he pals around with friends," and at one point is shown rapping while wearing a backward baseball cap. About a year after it aired, he was arrested for trying to join fighters in Iraq, though he was depicted during the trial as having fallen in with the wrong crowd. A former lawyer says the 18 months he spent in prison seemed to have hardened him.

In 2011, Charif traveled to Yemen and underwent terrorist training with the al-Qaeda affiliate there, reports the New York Times. The training lasted a "few months" and covered small-arms combat and marksmanship. Less is known about his brother Said, 34, though both men have been on the US no-fly list for years, reports NBC News. US officials still don't know whether the brothers, who remain at large, acted on their own or received orders from an al-Qaeda leader. A third suspect, Mourad Hamyd, 18, turned himself in after hearing his name on the news but says he had nothing to do with the murders. (The shooters specifically sought out the editor of Charlie Hebdo during the attack.)

SOURCE One Paris Suspect Was in TV Program on Extremism
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Sounds like there was enough to justify banning this guy from western countries. I wonder if we are too lenient.
 

Woodrow LI

IB Ambassador
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Sounds like there was enough to justify banning this guy from western countries. I wonder if we are too lenient.

Almost grounds for a conspiracy theory. It only took the media a couple of days to find out he had been trained as a terrorist, he had a criminal record, etc

The guy was a walking bomb ready to explode and it seems the government was aware of it. He was on the "No flight" list for travel to the US, The question arises is why wasn't he deported on the basis of his being known to have terrorist connections. We killed Alwaki with much less justification.

I know this is just pure rambling with no evidence, but it looks like somebody wanted him to explode in order to maintain distrust of all Muslims.. Just my anger emerging with no evidence to support it.

Pretty much can be said about the "Boston Bombers"

they all seem to have the same pattern

Muslim in name only
History of Juvenile delinquency
Traveled abroad to meet with known terrorist organizations.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
"No flight" list for travel to the US,
Seems to me that should include 'No ground' also.


"I know this is just pure rambling with no evidence, but it looks like somebody wanted him to explode in order to maintain distrust of all Muslims.. Just my anger emerging with no evidence to support it.

Pretty much can be said about the "Boston Bombers"

they all seem to have the same pattern

Muslim in name only
History of Juvenile delinquency
Traveled abroad to meet with known terrorist organizations.
Not buying that conspiracy theory. Just too much data, people, organizations leads to data overload and analysis paralysis. Maybe its time for quicker deportation decisions.
 

Woodrow LI

IB Ambassador
Seems to me that should include 'No ground' also.



Not buying that conspiracy theory. Just too much data, people, organizations leads to data overload and analysis paralysis. Maybe its time for quicker deportation decisions.

I'm in favor of that.

Now if we in the US could make that retroactive to 1492.

OOOPs that would give my wife a way to get rid of me.

but in seriousness it seems some countries did make their immigration laws too lenient.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
what do i do for a living? what has that got to do with the burkha of the day?
........... I wanted to see how naive you really are...... and how prejudiced your posts really are...
we know they had skills by the way they moved and handled a gun.
...... We? Oh my God....... you mean there's a whole team of prejudiced amateurs working with you...?
it would seem that they were trained in syria.
....... it would seem....... do you make this rubbish up as you write it, or do you dream first....?
We will know ...... whjen we have found out.....
now i will ask you the questions.
OK...... this is really going to be telling....
how old are you and are you married?
66 yrs and married. Now....... that's spoiled your prejudice, has it not?
You are so predictable....
oh yeah and i am an undergraduate student okay?
No........ No...... this was the bit where you were going to ask me questions, remember?
But since you have told us of your complete lack of experience in anything, ....ok

I like your posts. Your utter prejudgement and naivete bring a little laughter into an otherwise very sombre week.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I was a better detective than you will ever be.
Over three decades. And a Detective trainer.....
Now.......... Wait, until we know more.
You are just an amateur, my friend. I was a pro....... :p

Wow! You have my attention! However it's the internet and anyone can be anything to everyone.
Such a bold claim.
I'd never be insulting & say I was better than anyone.
You've not walked in my shoes in my world.
I know nothing about your world.
However it's now proven these 3 terroists were Al Qu'aeda (sp?) trained in Yemin
with an agenda, it was a well planned attack with a support group, help from ISIS,
an exit plan that went awry, now trapped, surrounded by French pissed off police, gunman say they want to die as martyrs.
It's be a shame if snipers took their legs off and they went to a French prison legless in a wheelchair.
At least he news is calling this a religiously motivated act of mass murder tp
promote islam via fear. Part of the game plan by extremists.
They want the world to be afraid of islamics everywhere. No matter how "mild" & "moderate" other islamics claim to be the idea is to make people everywhere to be afraid of all islamics all over the globe. Fear is the goal used to promote islam by the extremists.
Perhaps the extremists feel that if fear motivates it might motivate infidels to become violent towards the moderate muslims and involve the world in a war with islam to martyr many innocent muslims.
Saw a video clip of an extremist islamic group shouting, jumping up and down yelling
"down with America" when someones suicide belt detonated killing many of the partiers.
Such a shameful waste of life.
 
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