Muslims only: Does Islam support creation or evolution?

[Treks]

Hello

I've been meaning to ask this for a long time: Does Islam teach creationism? Or is there room to support theories such as the Big Bang?

If it believes in creationism, is it the same as in the Bible (earth created in 6 days)? Do Muslims believe everything was created as-is, and nothing evolved?

Or do they believe a mixture - the Big Bang was caused by Allah and evolution has been guided by Him ever since?

Many thanks for your time.

 

[FearGod]

Hello

I've been meaning to ask this for a long time: Does Islam teach creationism? Or is there room to support theories such as the Big Bang?

If it believes in creationism, is it the same as in the Bible (earth created in 6 days)? Do Muslims believe everything was created as-is, and nothing evolved?

Or do they believe a mixture - the Big Bang was caused by Allah and evolution has been guided by Him ever since?

Many thanks for your time.

How did we know about evolution ?

 

[Rational_Mind]

As for my perspective I firmly believe that the Quran has not only supported but asserted Evolution and the Big Bang concept of creation (will try to post on this later or you can look up book online Revelation Rationality Knowledge Truth).

As toward evolution I believe it was not randomness rather designed and guided by God. It was not "blind" evolution but at each path God decided where evolution should peak and the ultimate purpose of evolution.

The word translated as Lord is Al-Rabb. It means Lord, Master, Creator, the One who sustains and develops and brings to
perfection by degrees

What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom intelligence) and staidness from Allah? While He has created you in different forms and ever changing states? Have you not seen how Allah has created seven heavens in perfect harmony, and has placed the moon therein as a light, and made the sun as a lamp? (Al Quran 71:14-
17)

Quranic Concept of Evolution

Many Muslims are also of the opinion that Quran teaches creationism. There is another thread in here were there was a discussion on Evolution/Creationism in the Quran. (Islam Quran Evolution)

 

[Treks]

Thanks Rational_Mind and Yahya.

FearGod I don't understand your question.

 

[FearGod]

Thanks Rational_Mind and Yahya.

FearGod I don't understand your question.

i mean what is our evidence on earth that there was an evolution at one point of time.

or that there was creations which were our ancestors.

Do we have evidences to prove that on earth ?

 

[Rational_Mind]

i mean what is our evidence on earth that there was an evolution at one point of time.

or that there was creations which were our ancestors.

Do we have evidences to prove that on earth ?

Yes there is more than sufficient evidence. Among Scientists the question is no longer if evolution happened but rather how it happened. It would be off-topic to start a discussion here. There are a lot of threads that have been through this discussion. You could also open up a thread under general discussions or science.

 

[F0uad]

I belief that the Quran can be interpreted in a way that explains the Big-Bang however i can't be sure about it.

Furthermore Muslims do not belief in that humans evolved from animals, monkeys, reptiles and so forth..

 

[FearGod]

Yes there is more than sufficient evidence. Among Scientists the question is no longer if evolution happened but rather how it happened. It would be off-topic to start a discussion here. There are a lot of threads that have been through this discussion. You could also open up a thread under general discussions or science.

i know that but i want to show that god himself guided us to search on earth to find fossils to see how life has started.

Say: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation: for Allah has power over all things. (29:20)

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Evolution was an Islamic Theory Before Darwin was Even Born - YouTube

 

[Gharib]

Islam does not support Evolution. We do believe that minor changes do happen but not major ones such as one species evolving into another over time regardless how long this time is.

He it is Who has created you from clay, and then has decreed a (stated) term (for you to die). And there is with Him another determined term (for you to be resurrected), yet you doubt (in the Resurrection).
(Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #2)

And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.
(Al-Hijr, Chapter #15, Verse #26)

As for the Big Bang, Islam does support some of it but not all what is said about the big bang.

“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47)

 

[FearGod]

Islam does not support Evolution. We do believe that minor changes do happen but not major ones such as one species evolving into another over time regardless how long this time is.

He it is Who has created you from clay, and then has decreed a (stated) term (for you to die). And there is with Him another determined term (for you to be resurrected), yet you doubt (in the Resurrection).
(Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #2)

And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.
(Al-Hijr, Chapter #15, Verse #26)

As for the Big Bang, Islam does support some of it but not all what is said about the big bang.

“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47)

Yes i agree with you Islam doesn't support evolution as explained by random mutations and natural selection but creations evolved to a new creation by god design and control.

 

[Gharib]

Yes i agree with you Islam doesn't support evolution as explained by random mutations and natural selection but creations evolved to a new creation by god design and control.

Please do not say that you agree with me and then say that you support the evolution of one species to another. I said we accept minor changes (micro evolution) but not big changes (macro evolution).

There is nothing in Islamic teachings that supports the idea of humans and apes having the same ancestor.

 

[FearGod]

Please do not say that you agree with me and then say that you support the evolution of one species to another. I said we accept minor changes (micro evolution) but not big changes (macro evolution).

There is nothing in Islamic teachings that supports the idea of humans and apes having the same ancestor.

Salaam Brother Eselam,

You didn't notice that i said a new creation.

The whole universe started from one piece ,but then the sun is different than the earth different than the moon whereas all originally were one piece.

“Have not “those who disbelieve” known that heavens and earth were of one piece, We parted them and, We made every living thing of water, will they not then believe?” (Quran 21:30)

And similarly as the verse make it clear that god created all sort of life originated from water

Possible Sites for the Origin of Life

One current theory is that life originated deep beneath the surface of the ocean at deep sea hydrothermal vents. These hydrothermal vents were first discovered in 1979. Soon after, scientists made an exciting discovery. These vents release hot gaseous substances from the center of the earth at temperatures in excess of 572oF. Previously scientists were sure that life could not exist, deep beneath the surface of the ocean. After the discovery of hydrothermal vents, they found ecosystems thriving in the depths of the ocean. These ecosystems contained various types of fish, worms, crabs, bacteria and other organisms which had found a way to survive in a cold, hostile environment without energy input from sunlight. Because life had been found to exist where it previously was thought unable to, many scientists began to ask questions as to whether or not this was where life may have originated on the earth.

Reference : Possible Sites for the Origin of Life

 

[Matemkar]

salam..
these videos can be helpful:

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Br. Hassanain Rajaali - Worshipping God - YouTube

(it is 30 minutes.. just it is played twice..)

and also

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Hajj Hassanain Rajabali | Evolution and God in Islam - YouTube

thanks.. ma salam

 

[Gharib]

Salaam Brother Eselam,

You didn't notice that i said a new creation.

The whole universe started from one piece ,but then the sun is different than the earth different than the moon whereas all originally were one piece.

“Have not “those who disbelieve” known that heavens and earth were of one piece, We parted them and, We made every living thing of water, will they not then believe?” (Quran 21:30)

And similarly as the verse make it clear that god created all sort of life originated from water

Possible Sites for the Origin of Life

One current theory is that life originated deep beneath the surface of the ocean at deep sea hydrothermal vents. These hydrothermal vents were first discovered in 1979. Soon after, scientists made an exciting discovery. These vents release hot gaseous substances from the center of the earth at temperatures in excess of 572oF. Previously scientists were sure that life could not exist, deep beneath the surface of the ocean. After the discovery of hydrothermal vents, they found ecosystems thriving in the depths of the ocean. These ecosystems contained various types of fish, worms, crabs, bacteria and other organisms which had found a way to survive in a cold, hostile environment without energy input from sunlight. Because life had been found to exist where it previously was thought unable to, many scientists began to ask questions as to whether or not this was where life may have originated on the earth.

Reference : Possible Sites for the Origin of Life

I noticed that you said new species, that's why I said what I said. The rest of your post has no relation to what I said.

 

[FearGod]

I noticed that you said new species, that's why I said what I said. The rest of your post has no relation to what I said.

And He it is Who hath created man from water, and hath appointed for him kindred by blood and kindred by marriage; for thy Lord is ever Powerful. (25:54)

from changing the nature of your existence and bringing you into being [anew] in a manner [as yet] unknown to you. (56:61)

 

[loverOfTruth]

Hello

I've been meaning to ask this for a long time: Does Islam teach creationism? Or is there room to support theories such as the Big Bang?

If it believes in creationism, is it the same as in the Bible (earth created in 6 days)? Do Muslims believe everything was created as-is, and nothing evolved?

Or do they believe a mixture - the Big Bang was caused by Allah and evolution has been guided by Him ever since?

Many thanks for your time.

I think this is a good mainstream Islamic perspective of the subject matter :
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Evolution Debate, Jan. 2013: Sh. Yasir Qadhi vs. Usama Hasan (Truth Seeker) - YouTube

 

[Aamer]

How the universe started is open for discussion. However, Quran clearly states that we were created from a single pair (Adam and Eve). So no room for theories that claim we involved from apes.

 

[Treks]

Thanks for all your input everyone

 

[Rational_Mind]

How the universe started is open for discussion. However, Quran clearly states that we were created from a single pair (Adam and Eve). So no room for theories that claim we involved from apes.

Which verse are you referring to?

 

[Aamer]

Which verse are you referring to?

[49:13] O mankind, We created you from a male and female, and We made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely, the most honorable among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is Knowledgeable, Ever-aware.