My friend is a Born Again and keeps trying to convert me saying I have NO free will

[roger1440]

Please advise.
A dear friend of mine was diagnosed with Muscular Dystrophy a few years ago (she walks with the help of a cane and is not wheel chair bound). Now she is Born Again. She has been trying desperately to convert me to her religion. I am of no one faith. I was never baptized and was raised in a NON religions household (I am 49). She is relentless and I fear she is not using her belief wisely. She has income from her disablity and she has a man that she has been seeing for three years help pay all of her bills as well. She has money to spend on fine clothes and go to estate sales every weekend to buy things that she says "i don't need but buy anyway". She also goes out to good restaurants weekly for dinner. What bothers me is that she takes advantage of the Food Banks for her groceries...when I know she also pays for a Sams club membership and buys LOTS of food from there as well.
She takes when she doesn't need...

Also she preaches to me when I go to visit her and when she comes to my house. She BEGGED me to come to her church on her birthday as it would mean alot to her..So I did. I went with NO inclination of joining but honored her requests and went as I knew it would make her happy. I sat through it all and she was so happy that I was there.
Now fast forward a couple of weeks. I am recovering from a major surgery and have been home for 4 weeks. My partner works out of town and I have been trying to get by on my own with many physical restrictions. NOT ONE word from my religious friend except for a text the day of my surgery stating "May you find healing in our Lord Jesus Christ"...For three weeks no checking to see how I was doing or if I needed anything. Then out of the blue she says she would like to come over and visit (three weeks after surgery). I say sure I would love to see you. She visits and during her visit gives me a "get well card" with some reference to some Psalm in the bible. I thank her for the card and ignore the reference to the Psalm thing. She made reference to it and then asked if I still had the copy of the new testament that she asked me to read. I said yes its on my bookshelf. She retrieved it and proceeded to then READ to me the passage she was referring to. This went on for about 20 minutes. Then she proceeds to tell me that BY GOING TO HER CHURCH I HAVE NOW ACCEPTED THE LORD JESUS INTO MY LIFE AND I NOW HAVE ETERNAL LIFE AND THAT I AM A HEIRESS TO JESUS!!!!! I looked at her and was quite puzzled by that statement. I asked her how can that be? She said by being there I agreed to accept him into my life. I did no such thing. I did NOT accept any "communion" nor did I "drink any wine". I didn't bow my head and pray as I didn't feel comfortable in joining any prayer. I just sat there as a spectator.

HOW is this possible? I had to sit through her preaching about how I will now be able to go to heaven and so on.
This to me is NOT a good example of practicing what you preach. I think the only reason she came to visit was to tell me this crap.

Any ideas on this would be very helpful!!

Smack him in the mouth and tell him you couldn't help yourself.

 

[McBell]

Any ideas on this would be very helpful!!

Start standing up for yourself and set this woman straight.

 

[Light in darkness]

I'm a little late on this thread! But allow toclear up the question. The best way Ican explain is this. We are all born of free will, it is something that embedded in our DNA that is why freedom is precious to us all. God has given us free will to follow Him or not. The whole reason why God left Adam alone in the garden to deal with temptation is because he did not want to interfere with Adam's choice. You see, God is a gentleman and will step out of the way if we ask Him. Does He know who is going to heaven and hell? Yes He does. He has seen the movie, and hopes that people will change their minds. Even once you become a believer that free will is still in you. You have a choice to do His will! Or not.

 

[Ingledsva]

I'm a little late on this thread! But allow toclear up the question. The best way Ican explain is this. We are all born of free will, it is something that embedded in our DNA that is why freedom is precious to us all. God has given us free will to follow Him or not. The whole reason why God left Adam alone in the garden to deal with temptation is because he did not want to interfere with Adam's choice. You see, God is a gentleman and will step out of the way if we ask Him. Does He know who is going to heaven and hell? Yes He does. He has seen the movie, and hopes that people will change their minds. Even once you become a believer that free will is still in you. You have a choice to do His will! Or not.

What choice?

If they had no KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, - right and wrong, - then they couldn't sin, - could they.

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Adam and Chav'vah is just a teaching story.


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[NulliuSINverba]

Please advise.
A dear friend of mine was diagnosed with Muscular Dystrophy a few years ago (she walks with the help of a cane and is not wheel chair bound).

Clearly, her affliction must reflect God's wrath? Shall we consult with Pat Robertson?

Now she is Born Again. She has been trying desperately to convert me to her religion.

She is relentless and I fear she is not using her belief wisely.

Ibid.

She has income from her disablity and she has a man that she has been seeing for three years help pay all of her bills as well. She has money to spend on fine clothes and go to estate sales every weekend to buy things that she says "i don't need but buy anyway". She also goes out to good restaurants weekly for dinner. What bothers me is that she takes advantage of the Food Banks for her groceries...when I know she also pays for a Sams club membership and buys LOTS of food from there as well.

That a professed Christian would be willing to game the system isn't the least bit surprising. Their religion allows them to live the most despicable lives imaginable and then repent at the last minute and still make it to heaven.

She takes when she doesn't need...

There's no commandment against that, is there?

Also she preaches to me when I go to visit her and when she comes to my house. She BEGGED me to come to her church on her birthday as it would mean alot to her..So I did. I went with NO inclination of joining but honored her requests and went as I knew it would make her happy. I sat through it all and she was so happy that I was there.
Now fast forward a couple of weeks. I am recovering from a major surgery and have been home for 4 weeks. My partner works out of town and I have been trying to get by on my own with many physical restrictions. NOT ONE word from my religious friend except for a text the day of my surgery stating "May you find healing in our Lord Jesus Christ"...For three weeks no checking to see how I was doing or if I needed anything. Then out of the blue she says she would like to come over and visit (three weeks after surgery). I say sure I would love to see you. She visits and during her visit gives me a "get well card" with some reference to some Psalm in the bible. I thank her for the card and ignore the reference to the Psalm thing. She made reference to it and then asked if I still had the copy of the new testament that she asked me to read. I said yes its on my bookshelf. She retrieved it and proceeded to then READ to me the passage she was referring to. This went on for about 20 minutes. Then she proceeds to tell me that BY GOING TO HER CHURCH I HAVE NOW ACCEPTED THE LORD JESUS INTO MY LIFE AND I NOW HAVE ETERNAL LIFE AND THAT I AM A HEIRESS TO JESUS!!!!!

Wow. So you're done, right? No need to ever attend church again, right?

I looked at her and was quite puzzled by that statement. I asked her how can that be? She said by being there I agreed to accept him into my life. I did no such thing. I did NOT accept any "communion" nor did I "drink any wine". I didn't bow my head and pray as I didn't feel comfortable in joining any prayer. I just sat there as a spectator.

HOW is this possible? I had to sit through her preaching about how I will now be able to go to heaven and so on.
This to me is NOT a good example of practicing what you preach. I think the only reason she came to visit was to tell me this crap.

Any ideas on this would be very helpful!!

She sounds like a terminally obnoxious pain in the ***. Find a new friend.

 

[roger1440]

If someone tries to convince you to stop smoking that shows they care about you.That is a real friend.

Years ago I was in a chat room chatting with a woman. After a few minutes of chatting she and I had put our web cams on. This was one huge woman. In order for this woman to fit on the cam she had to back up the cam a few feet. She honestly needs to invest in a wide angle lens. I didn’t mention a word about how fat she was. Immediately after I had lit a cigarette she said, “You smoke, that is disgusting”. I then replied with, “So is being as big as a darn house, but that doesn’t seem to stop you”. When you think about it majority rules. Only about 20% of Americans smoke but about 60% is overweight. Since fat folks far outnumber smokers, smokers are fair game for fat people. If I went up to a fat chick and said something like, “Lady, you really need to cut down on the donuts” she would probably think I’m rude, but picking on smokers is ok.