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My religion now includes omnism
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Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
My omnism is this: Omnism is the recognition and respect of all religions. There are truths I can learn from other religions. It is a little more complicated than that, though. There are certain religious figures that I consider infallible, and I accept all truths from them. There are those who I consider inspired but not infallible, and I can pick and choose from them whatever truths they have, and learn from that, but I respect them. There are a few religions that I consider bogus, like scientology. I don't respect those founders, but I don't hold it against the followers.
Is your omnism the same as mine?
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stvdv
Veteran Member
I learned 1 very important thing from Scientology
So it's not all bogus
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stvdv
Veteran Member
I stumbled upon a nice Hindu story symbolising Omnism:
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A teacher once went for a morning walk with seven students, while the dew still lay over the land. After some time the sun broke through. The dewdrops sparkled which was a delight.
The teacher halted at a large dewdrop. He gathered the disciples around the drop so that the sun kept shining on it and then asked:
"What color is the drop?"
"Red," said the first.
'Orange', the second.
'Yellow', the third.
"Blue," the fourth.
'Green', the fifth.
"Purple," the sixth.
And the seventh said, "violet."
They were amazed at the differences. Because they were sure they saw it right, they almost got into a fight.
Then the teacher made them switch places several times and they saw a different color each time. And very slowly it dawned on the students that, despite the differences in their perceptions, they had all spoken the truth.
And the teacher said, "How you see the truth depends on the place you occupy in life. Just as you have just found part of the light and mistook it for the full truth.
Let your fellow pilgrims walk in complete freedom their own path of life, take their own place and perceive their own part of the light. You need each other's truths, for all together they form the real light, the full truth.
Until you have become one of the greats and can perceive the seven colors in one, with each "discovery", with each "rebirth", you will be able to learn something and with major changes in your life you will take a different point of view and change the truth. see in a different way.
Therefore, do not only be tolerant - for that is only tolerating a different opinion - but even be glad that there are different opinions.
As long as you cannot see the full light yourself, you need fellow human beings to get to know the full truth.
Hindu story
Who are we?
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I am hapoy for you @sun rise. It is good you find new areas in your path to discover.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
According to Scientology, its beliefs and practices are based on rigorous research, and its doctrines are accorded a significance equivalent to scientific laws.[138] Scientology cosmology is, however, at odds with modern science, with claims of memories going back "76 trillion years,"[139] much longer than the age of the universe. Blind belief is held to be of lesser significance than the practical application of Scientologist methods.[138] Adherents are encouraged to validate the practices through their personal experience.[138] Hubbard put it this way: "For a Scientologist, the final test of any knowledge he has gained is, 'did the data and the use of it in life actually improve conditions or didn't it?'"[138] He defined Scientology's aims as: "A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war; where the world can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology".[140][141] He described Scientology as an "applied religious philosophy" because, according to him, it consists of a metaphysical doctrine, a theory of psychology, and teachings in morality.[142] The core of Scientology teaching lies in the belief that "each human has a reactive mind that responds to life's traumas, clouding the analytic mind and keeping us from experiencing reality." Scientologists undergo auditing to discover sources of this trauma, believing that re-experiencing it neutralizes it and reinforces the ascendancy of the analytic mind, with the final goal believed to be achieving a spiritual state that Scientology calls "clear"
Comment by me: Having an analytic mind is not spirituality. It is a mind devoid of emotion. It is of no use as a religion. It is scientific quackery disguised as religion I would also say, so Hubbard could get rich.
During his lifetime, Hubbard was accused of using religion as a façade for Scientology to maintain tax-exempt status and avoid prosecution for false medical claims.[386] The IRS cited a statement frequently attributed to Hubbard that the way to get rich was to found a religion.[107][424] Though some claim the statement is unsubstantiated, many of Hubbard's science fiction colleagues, including Sam Merwin, Lloyd Arthur Eshbach and Sam Moscowitz, recall Hubbard raising the topic in conversation.
Scientology - Wikipedia
stvdv
Veteran Member
I just said "I learned 1 important thing, hence it's not all bogus"
DharmaCatLamp
Member
Various different religions all have their useful elements. Sometimes it is useful to dedicate yourself to one religion so that you can have a prescribed path to follow that will help you answer questions in your life but no one religion is correct for all people at all times. They all have something to teach.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Have to confess I read this too fast and thought you said "Onanism" at first.
As I said on another thread, I once had a Dodge Omni.
It didn't hold up to well. Fuel economy was great though.
Imagine in the 1980s getting 45 mpg!
But it wore out quickly, & I needed AC for my hour long
commute from Ann Arbor to GM Truck & bus in Pontiac.
BTW, it was on Wide Track, Pontiac. Great street name.
It didn't hold up to well. Fuel economy was great though.
Imagine in the 1980s getting 45 mpg!
But it wore out quickly, & I needed AC for my hour long
commute from Ann Arbor to GM Truck & bus in Pontiac.
BTW, it was on Wide Track, Pontiac. Great street name.
Vitality
Member
Omnism is a new word for me, but I definitely identify with the concept of finding truth in all religions. I may be atheist and generally dislike organized religion, but there are aspects to faith based or spiritual practices that offer insight to living a fulfilling life. From what I’ve learned, most religions provide interpretations of similar concepts pertaining to compassion, love, and selflessness. The particular practices really don’t make much of a difference, as they’re a matter of personal preference.
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Well said!
Have to confess I read this too fast and thought you said "Onanism" at first.
Onanism will never be part of my religion because the Book of Genesis is not a Hindu scripture.
Quite a bit.
Yes.
There are certain figures I consider perfect. I accept all truths from them as long as I'm sure it's truly from them and not modified by someone later.
Given the reality of the "Blind Men and the Elephant", I can accept that some speak the truth from their limited perspective.
Basically I agree.
"onanism" That's either a typo or a well constructed joke.
As a Bacheler of Arts, I don make typies.
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Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Yes, that's true, but I haven't. Hubbard was bogus. He wasn't inspired by anything but money. I'll give many people the benefit of the doubt, but not him.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
That's a good point! I basically agree, some infallible figures sayings are transmitted orally, written down later, and we can't be sure if they said it, at least word for word, or maybe worse. But the basic outlines of their religion is there.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Yes, that much I figured
Still we must speak Truth and avoid UnTruth
Making such a general claim is not wise, unless you are Omniscient, won't you agree? What would Baha'u'llah say?
Even if L.R.Hubbart made 1 hundred horrible mistakes, but did 1 good thing, it is a false claim to say "he is all bad". The correct thing to claim is something like "he did 99% bad things".
I don't trust any Preacher, esp. millionaires:
I can say "I don't trust any American preacher"(my opinion)
I can't claim "All American preachers are bad"(generalizing)