Certainly so, but there are also evident emotional reasons behind burying the dead. The act of burial seems to provide a measure of solace, which we seem to know as “closure”, to the burier.
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Mysterious species buried their dead and carved symbols 100,000 years before humans
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A modified “beer guzzler’s hat” would do the trick! Say, @ChristineM, how would this baby do for your Nescafé down in the hole?
Not really my colour;-)
Do you consider evolution to be a diabolical process? Do you disbelieve it, or think the “devil” behind it to confound the children of God, or some such consideration? I once had a couple of SDA friends of myself tell me that Satan has put the fossils into the rocks in order to confound mankind, which suggestion I found exceedingly absurd. The thing is, if the evolution of species is a fact, that fact yet does not disprove the existence of deity; it merely gives lie to the biblical account of deity, with which most of us were raised.
I’m with you 100% on that!
I’m unsure of what you mean by this bit.
Couldn’t find a pic of the yellow one.
Couldn’t find a pic of the yellow one.
I'd prefer white in caves. More visible. Or maybe a yellow flashing light on top
I think so too. It is an indication that abstract thinking has an origin that predates us and that we were not alone in its evolution.
Is this introspection?
A personal attack on the OP?
You are free to ignore it and continue in your denial elsewhere. Don't you all claim that when you are told others aren't interested, you just toddle off.
You can always just associate with others of your faith group that have chosen to believe what the group elders claim God has told them and close your eyes to the knowledge and experience that others find in what God has created.
You have made it clear that no evidence or understanding will persuade you. What else is there?
I have no interest in an engagement with someone that comes with a closed mind and simply repeats mantras in response to everything they were told not to believe or else.
I know where you are going with this, but of what value is it for someone to ignore what the light shines on in favor of something that was only told to them is in the light and to ignore what they do see?Yeah, you are the objective light as you don't even have beliefs.
Edit: I think I know where you are going with this. I don't really know until you tell me something.
Lot of that going around...just read some of the posts!
Hey, some people just prefer their fairy tales to true stories.
Yes, one can imagine that once you've left a dead body on the other side of the cave for a while, it tends to make breathing the air a touch off-putting. Not a hard thing to learn, really.
You know, I think that one of the things we humans do is to infer the idea of "spirit." We do it with other things -- trees and animals and other natural phenomena. I doubt that death was an easy thing for them to understand, and if the dead person was an important one to the group -- wise, or strong for example -- there would be a very real sense of loss.
So I can easily imagine that they may have seen death as just the "spirit" part of that person moving on. From there, it's not all that hard to imagine trying to find ways to get them to continue providing their wisdom or strength when times were tough. Pretty easy way for spiritual or religious practice to get going, actually.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
It is a detour from an interesting article to the ongoing fight of what is really real as to good and bad for what we ought to believe.
Here is a very simple and dirty model of an aspect of it in regards to science and how to understand that.
There is a group of posters, who functionally don't understand science as such.
There is a group of posters, who functionally understand science, but not its limitations.
There is a group of posters, who functionally understand science and its limitation.
Now for this one. To come out of the dark and stop having beliefs (as bad/"dark") is not science, but to the second group they use science and science*. The latter is the end connected the idea of how we can live better as humans, but that is not just science. But to them it is science*, but it is both science and non-science for the demarcation of what is versus how we ought to live as humans.
Sorry for the derail, but it is going on in a lot of threads and the short one is the science is the best tool we have as humans. The joke is that best is without evidence as science.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I am quite unemotional about it. After my death, cut my body in any way. Cut out the heart for one group of medical students or send my skull to another group to study. I want no weeping over my dead body and no ceremonies after my death, that suits an atheist advaitist Hindu. What constitutes me will never be dead.
Since the last chamber of the cave was connected by a narrow vertical shaft and without any draft, the stench may not have been very strong.
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Another interesting article about the Momo Naledi.
Professor Lee Berger shows off a full-scale reproduction of the skull of a hominid named Leti.
Fossils found deep in a South African cave formed part of a hominid child's skull, apparently left on an alcove by fellow members of her species 250,000 years ago, scientists said on Thursday.
The latest find adds to the riddle surrounding Homo naledi—a species of Stone Age hominids discovered less than a decade ago in a region called the Cradle of Humankind, named after the stunning fossils unearthed there.
"The real mystery about this child is why she was found where she was," said Lee Berger, the scientist who led the project.
"Something amazing was going on in this cave 200,000-300,000 years ago.
Although the researchers refer to the child as "her", they have not yet determined whether it was a boy or girl.
Researchers rarely find fossilised remains of children, because their bones are too thin and fragile to survive over aeons.
The child was probably only four to six years old when it died, with baby teeth intact and adult teeth starting to emerge.
Nearly 2,000 fossils have been found in the caves, which scientists have pieced together into partial skeletons of more than two dozen individuals.
The initial discovery revealed in 2015 helped complicate our understanding of human evolution, by showing that Homo sapiens probably lived alongside other species of hominin—the name for hominids that include anatomically modern man.
The newly found 28 skull fragments and six teeth were found even deeper in the cave complex, 12 metres (40 feet) away from the main find, through tiny crevices that required the explorers to literally squeeze between the rocky walls.
Researchers rarely find fossilised remains of children, because their bones are too thin and fragile to survive over aeons.
Child fossil find in South Africa sheds light on enigmatic hominids
by Griffin Shea
Fossils found deep in a South African cave formed part of a hominid child's skull, apparently left on an alcove by fellow members of her species 250,000 years ago, scientists said on Thursday.
The latest find adds to the riddle surrounding Homo naledi—a species of Stone Age hominids discovered less than a decade ago in a region called the Cradle of Humankind, named after the stunning fossils unearthed there.
"The real mystery about this child is why she was found where she was," said Lee Berger, the scientist who led the project.
"Something amazing was going on in this cave 200,000-300,000 years ago.
Although the researchers refer to the child as "her", they have not yet determined whether it was a boy or girl.
Researchers rarely find fossilised remains of children, because their bones are too thin and fragile to survive over aeons.
The child was probably only four to six years old when it died, with baby teeth intact and adult teeth starting to emerge.
Nearly 2,000 fossils have been found in the caves, which scientists have pieced together into partial skeletons of more than two dozen individuals.
The initial discovery revealed in 2015 helped complicate our understanding of human evolution, by showing that Homo sapiens probably lived alongside other species of hominin—the name for hominids that include anatomically modern man.
The newly found 28 skull fragments and six teeth were found even deeper in the cave complex, 12 metres (40 feet) away from the main find, through tiny crevices that required the explorers to literally squeeze between the rocky walls.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I didn't start out asking because of anything personal although I have been called ignorant and such things. No one has really answered questions in a way as if they understand what scientists said. When I quote a scientist that objects to the theory as told of evolution some here jump in to assault the scientist. I am not what some have called me (a science denier) but I thank you all for your answers because it has shown me many things. I am also not a Bible "literalist" as others have said. So thanks I truly have learned a lot.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Which goes back to the question of energy. Spirit- energy.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It was really my reaction to how some people spend time. I'm sorry if you don't like it but a nice cup of coffee is enjoyable for me upon occasion.