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As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?
Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
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This, probably.Yes, in the sense of profound trust.
I like that. Can you elaborate on the nature of your trust?Yes, in the sense of profound trust.
The word "faith", translated from the Greek πιστις (pi'stis), was primarily used in the New Testament with the Greek perfect tense and translates as a noun-verb hybrid; which is not adequately conveyed by the English noun. The verb form of pi'stis is pisteuo, which is often translated into English versions of the New Testament as 'believe'. The adjectival form, pistos, is almost always translated as 'faithful'. The New Testament writers, following the translators of the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) rendered words in the Hebrew scriptures that concerned 'faithfulness' using pi'stis-group words. The pi'stis-group words are most appropriately translated into English by a range of words, depending on the context in which they occur. In both the New Testament and other Greek texts, pi'stis describes connections of firmness that can form between a wide variety of entities: people, traditions, practices, groups, purposes, facts or propositions. The appropriate English translation is often evident from the relationship between the two entities connected by pi'stis. The pi'stis-group words in the New Testament can thus be interpreted as relating to ideas of faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty, commitment, trust, belief, and proof. The most appropriate interpretation and translation of pi'stis-group words in the New Testament is a matter of recent controversy, particularly over the meaning of pi'stis when it is directed towards Jesus
I trust that God is good and worthy of adoration. I have to go soon, but feel free to post more questions.doppelgänger;2581216 said:I like that. Can you elaborate on the nature of your trust?
Great information. Thanks. :?)I too would tend to say that 'Trust' comes to the top of my list in my own understanding of what faith is largely composed of. Trust itself is formed of it's own list of words/experiences too though.
Some words that pops up in explaining 'Trust' are:
'Safety' (to investigate, experiment and also in well being/physically)
And 'Safety' would be rooted in 'Experiencing' enough w/ discretion, so that one can feel 'Safe' and 'Trust', which allows of "Freeom" to become "Vulnerable, Open and Aware"
For the sake of it all....
A blurb about the translation of 'Faith' in the Christian Scriptures, the 'New Testament'
doppelgänger;2581203 said:As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?
Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
Trust that "what is" is.doppelgänger;2581203 said:As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?
Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
But to know you have not tried "faith" you must have some sense of what it means to you.I don't know that much about it, Dopp. So far as I recall, I've never tried faith in any major way. I think the reason for that is an intuition that it's just not right for me.
For me, "faith" means "confidence" in the universe and how it works. I know that when I think, act, speak, and behave in certain ways, the universe responds by showing me the impact of what I have done. But this isn't just showing confidence in the universe as a completely separate entity from myself....it's faith in how *I* operate as well.
Do you see these descriptions as different ways of describing the same thing?Trust that "what is" is.
Trust that the image we hold of everything, the image we hold our ourselves, the image we hold of holding an image, requires a holder.
Also, trust that words mean something to others.
doppelgänger;2581257 said:Do you see these descriptions as different ways of describing the same thing?
I don't know that much about it, Dopp. So far as I recall, I've never tried faith in any major way. I think the reason for that is an intuition that it's just not right for me.
doppelgänger;2581248 said:But to know you have not tried "faith" you must have some sense of what it means to you.
doppelgänger;2581203 said:As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?
Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?