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Mystic perspective on "faith."

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?

Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I too would tend to say that 'Trust' comes to the top of my list in my own understanding of what faith is largely composed of. Trust itself is formed of it's own list of words/experiences too though. :D

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Some words that pop up in explaining 'Trust' are:

'Safety' (to investigate, experiment and also in well being/physically)

And 'Safety' would be rooted in 'Experiencing' enough w/ discretion, so that one can feel 'Safe' and 'Trust', which allows of 'Freedom' to become 'Vulnerable, Open and Aware'


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For the sake of it all....

A blurb about the translation of 'Faith' in the Christian Scriptures, the 'New Testament'

The word "faith", translated from the Greek πιστις (pi'stis), was primarily used in the New Testament with the Greek perfect tense and translates as a noun-verb hybrid; which is not adequately conveyed by the English noun. The verb form of pi'stis is pisteuo, which is often translated into English versions of the New Testament as 'believe'. The adjectival form, pistos, is almost always translated as 'faithful'. The New Testament writers, following the translators of the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) rendered words in the Hebrew scriptures that concerned 'faithfulness' using pi'stis-group words. The pi'stis-group words are most appropriately translated into English by a range of words, depending on the context in which they occur. In both the New Testament and other Greek texts, pi'stis describes connections of firmness that can form between a wide variety of entities: people, traditions, practices, groups, purposes, facts or propositions. The appropriate English translation is often evident from the relationship between the two entities connected by pi'stis. The pi'stis-group words in the New Testament can thus be interpreted as relating to ideas of faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty, commitment, trust, belief, and proof. The most appropriate interpretation and translation of pi'stis-group words in the New Testament is a matter of recent controversy, particularly over the meaning of pi'stis when it is directed towards Jesus
 
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Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
doppelgänger;2581216 said:
I like that. Can you elaborate on the nature of your trust?
I trust that God is good and worthy of adoration. I have to go soon, but feel free to post more questions.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
I too would tend to say that 'Trust' comes to the top of my list in my own understanding of what faith is largely composed of. Trust itself is formed of it's own list of words/experiences too though. :D

Some words that pops up in explaining 'Trust' are:

'Safety' (to investigate, experiment and also in well being/physically)

And 'Safety' would be rooted in 'Experiencing' enough w/ discretion, so that one can feel 'Safe' and 'Trust', which allows of "Freeom" to become "Vulnerable, Open and Aware"

For the sake of it all....

A blurb about the translation of 'Faith' in the Christian Scriptures, the 'New Testament'
Great information. Thanks. :?)
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
doppelgänger;2581203 said:
As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?

Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?

For me, "faith" means "confidence" in the universe and how it works. I know that when I think, act, speak, and behave in certain ways, the universe responds by showing me the impact of what I have done. But this isn't just showing confidence in the universe as a completely separate entity from myself....it's faith in how *I* operate as well.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
doppelgänger;2581203 said:
As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?

Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?
Trust that "what is" is.

Trust that the image we hold of everything, the image we hold our ourselves, the image we hold of holding an image, requires a holder.

Also, trust that words mean something to others.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't know that much about it, Dopp. So far as I recall, I've never tried faith in any major way. I think the reason for that is an intuition that it's just not right for me.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
I don't know that much about it, Dopp. So far as I recall, I've never tried faith in any major way. I think the reason for that is an intuition that it's just not right for me.
But to know you have not tried "faith" you must have some sense of what it means to you.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
For me, "faith" means "confidence" in the universe and how it works. I know that when I think, act, speak, and behave in certain ways, the universe responds by showing me the impact of what I have done. But this isn't just showing confidence in the universe as a completely separate entity from myself....it's faith in how *I* operate as well.

Trust that "what is" is.

Trust that the image we hold of everything, the image we hold our ourselves, the image we hold of holding an image, requires a holder.

Also, trust that words mean something to others.
Do you see these descriptions as different ways of describing the same thing?
 

blackout

Violet.
Profound trust in the validity of my own experience of life.
"faith" in my own vision and intuition.
Peace in knowing that my own interpretation/s of life
are what I bring to the process of my own becoming.
Confidence in my Own Artistry,
that the lines and forms of my creation may resonate transcendence
flowing as one with the grace and (trans)formative power of my being,
on the wings of my own I'Mage'ination (Self) Realized.
 
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Me Myself

Back to my username
Faith is the very nature of the soul, the way it communicates and recieves.

One cannot force faith, nor should.

One cannot doubt faith because it is imposible, but it is very easy to confuse a psychological construct with the actual nature of faith and then doubt such psychological construct

For me faith is something you experience, not something you do. aith is what you are, and feeling faith is feeling yourself, and in such, feeling the true nature of God.

Or well, something like that :D
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I don't know that much about it, Dopp. So far as I recall, I've never tried faith in any major way. I think the reason for that is an intuition that it's just not right for me.

that very same intuition is what I think may be your faith :D

:angel2:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
doppelgänger;2581248 said:
But to know you have not tried "faith" you must have some sense of what it means to you.

I think of faith as acceptance of something without adequate reason or evidence.
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
doppelgänger;2581203 said:
As a mystic, what does "faith" mean to you?

Would you describe yourself as a person with "faith"? If so, in what sense?

I aspire to mysticism - but I'm not a mystic.
I would not describe myself as having "faith". However, I would say 'I believe in God' as shorthand.
Faith isn't for me. Faith is believing what someone else says
 
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