NAACP issues travel advisory for Florida...

[metis]

Is this funny? Is it sad? Is it both? Perhaps the French word "triste" might be better?

The NAACP has issued a travel advisory for Florida, stating that the state is "openly hostile to African Americans, people of color and LGBTQ+ individuals."

But this is the naked truth -- Ron DeSantis is invoking a very real war on a multiplicity of the cultures and communities that make up the US (and his state) for the sole purpose of establishing himself as the carrier of the Republican Flag in the 2024 election.

All the gains, all that we've learned about each other, all the ways in which we have tried to come together and appreciate one another -- all of it -- is to be thrown under the bus so that he can be MR. BIG in the US instead of the wispy-haired pumpkin.

Who are you, America? I mean it -- who are you?

I think the NAACP did the right thing, and I wouldn't visit Florida right now, and I ain't black.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think the NAACP did the right thing, and I wouldn't visit Florida right now, and I ain't black.

Easily frightened, eh.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Easily frightened, eh.

Well, I would act and look to much of an odd one out in the USA. And based on your posts about cops and other info about the USA, I wouldn't visit the USA. There are enough other places in the world that are interesting, so I don't have any good reason to go and only good reasons to stay away in regards to the USA.

 

[George-ananda]

Definitely causes me to lose respect for the NAACP with such politically motivated overreaction. To travelers - I predict you will experience nothing different than in other states.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, I would act and look to much of an odd one out in the USA. And based on your posts about cops and other info about the USA, I wouldn't visit the USA. There are enough other places in the world that are interesting, so I don't have any good reason to go and only good reasons to stay away in regards to the USA.

You think European policing is all that great?

Police violence in Germany: An underreported problem? – DW – 09/17/2019

Police violence is a contentious issue in most countries, with Germany being no exception. A recent study suggests that there could be more instances of violence by law enforcement than official statistics show.

www.dw.com

Violence and harassment across Europe much higher than official records

fra.europa.eu

One takes one's chances when encountering cops,
but if one plays the game, one is likely to escape
intact. I travel all over with a rig that attracts
attention. But properly secured loads, not being
overloaded, safety chains crossed, all lights working,
etc, minimizes interactions with the law.
The couple times I did deal with them, it was handled
with the best possible outcome.

Be wary, but not fearful.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The Left is dividing the country by creating an allusion that America is primarily racist. The allusion that anyone who fails or gets into trouble of any kind is the victim of an imaginary white supremacy conspiracy.

Its essentially a bigoted attack on white people while ignoring that minority groups do have legal recourse in cases of discrimination, if and when it occurs.

They use remote cases of racism and expand that to make it look as if it's a national crisis happening everywhere.




.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Definitely causes me to lose respect for the NAACP with such politically motivated overreaction. To travelers - I predict you will experience nothing different than in other states.

Florida is fine on the civilian front.

It's clearly hyperbole and I'd like the NAACP to prove the extent of their overreacting that justifies a travel advisory.

It's insane.

 

[George-ananda]

Florida is fine on the civilian front.

It's clearly hyperbole and I'd like the NAACP to prove the extent of their overreacting that justifies a travel advisory.

It's insane.

I read it as a political act and not really a travel advisory. A minor shot in the ongoing Woke versus DeSantis war.

 

[F1fan]

Does anyone want the USA to become like Florida? It's bad enough there are red states that limit freedom, but the whole nation?

 

[Revoltingest]

I read it as a political act and not really a travel advisory. A minor shot in the ongoing Woke versus DeSantis war.

It's like we share one brain!
Suddenly, I want to go claw something to shreds.

 

[F1fan]

No. Black people are not in dire danger in Florida.

It's that simple.

If you were given the right to vote after a felony conviction you are. About 20 black people were arrested for voter fraud after felony convictions but arrested anyway due to changes in laws that led to screw ups. The message: black people who were former felons be afraid to vote. Many of these arrest charges were dismissed or thrown out. As it is Florida is becoming more hostile to marginalized categories of people, and how many are being encouraged to act against these groups because they think it's legal?

 

[Revoltingest]

If you were given the right to vote after a felony conviction you are. About 20 black people were arrested for voter fraud after felony convictions but arrested anyway due to changes in laws that led to screw ups.

A travel advisory would apply to people coming from out of the state.
So the risk of being arrested for voting in FL is extremely low.
BTW, I didn't see in the news that all 20 Floridian former felons
arrested for voting were black. How is this known?

 

[metis]

Well, I would act and look to much of an odd one out in the USA. And based on your posts about cops and other info about the USA, I wouldn't visit the USA. There are enough other places in the world that are interesting, so I don't have any good reason to go and only good reasons to stay away in regards to the USA.

Frankly, in the1970's, my wife and I considered moving to Canada, which is a hop, step, and a jump from where I lived, and I do regret not making the move. However, at the time we couldn't because my wife's parents needed a lot of help here.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Definitely causes me to lose respect for the NAACP with such politically motivated overreaction. To travelers - I predict you will experience nothing different than in other states.

And so what if it's politcally motivated? Lots of different sorts of demonstrations and tactics are politically motivated.

At least in part, I think it important to remind everyone that the "political" target here is someone who is almost certain to take a run at the US Presidency, and that using whatever means one can to ensure that who and what he stands for is well-known to the public is not unreasonable. In fact, it comes under "free speech," if I'm not mistaken.

Someone asked earlier in the thread (though it seems to have been since deleted) why the NAACP is referring to both "African Americans" and "other people of color." Seems obvious to me that many people from the Indian subcontinent and other parts of asia are indeed people of color, and are certainly not African Americans.

And it is important to remember, too, that in just the past several months, has signed bills:

• rejecting a new advanced placement course in African-American studies
• defunding diversity, equity and inclusion programs (equity and inclusion are "woke," you know, and we don't want any of that)
• outlaing gender affirming and transition care for minors -- despite even what their parents want and their health-care professionals recommend (knowing how to lie to get elected makes you smarter than everybody else, after all)

 

[Twilight Hue]

If you were given the right to vote after a felony conviction you are. About 20 black people were arrested for voter fraud after felony convictions but arrested anyway due to changes in laws that led to screw ups. The message: black people who were former felons be afraid to vote. Many of these arrest charges were dismissed or thrown out. As it is Florida is becoming more hostile to marginalized categories of people, and how many are being encouraged to act against these groups because they think it's legal?

It seems it's more to do with felony status rather than skin color.

I'd agree if you think and can prove white felons are givin a pass to contrast this allegation of racial bias.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I read it as a political act and not really a travel advisory. A minor shot in the ongoing Woke versus DeSantis war.

I can certainly view it as a political act. Maybe better described as a political stunt.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think the NAACP did the right thing, and I wouldn't visit Florida right now, and I ain't black.

And miss out on Southern Cooking? Best in the world imv.

 

[We Never Know]

I read it as a political act and not really a travel advisory. A minor shot in the ongoing Woke versus DeSantis war.

Speaking of woke.. Do you remember the Fat Albert cartoon?
Do you think that would be accepted today?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I wonder about that -- there was a time when Islam was the protector of much of the ancient wisdom and then-modern science in the world. Now, not so much. There are more books translated into Spanish every week than there are into Arabic in a year. And women reading terrifies them. And don't even ask about their tolerance for LGBTQ+ issues! And that is in large measure a function of a religion.

Religion AND the governments that use it as a tool.
That's actually the exception that prove the rule -- it takes the combined forces of fundamentalist religion and totalitarian government to push back against the tide of progress... and even in the most oppressive regimes, the cracks are showing.

And of course -- there are always those who choose to vote with their feet, as it were.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And miss out on Southern Cooking? Best in the world imv.

And notably unhealthy, according to the Mayo Clinic. That’s because Southern cooking tends to be high in saturated fats, salts and loaded with added sugar — all risk factors for hypertension. And these excesses are major risk factors for heart disease, stroke, vision problems and kidney disease, says Dr. Ivan Porter.