Nature of reality and ''Particle Physics'' - no afterlife?

[Charzhino]

I watched this video which was posted on my twitter


RDFRS: Higgs Boson and the Fundamental Nature of Reality - Sean Carroll

Its a very informative lecture about the recent discovery of the Higgs Boson and explains how the standard model of physics represents the true nature of the universe. I encourage you to watch the whole video if you have time (50 minutes) but I am interested in the last 10 minutes of it.

The first segment of the lecture talks about the universe's building blocks actually being waves (therefore non-material like we percieve) and thus very similar to what Hinduism describes as an illusion or maya which was pleasing to see. However in his last slides the professor says a few conclusions of standard model which suggests there can be no afterlife. There is no way if a soul exists, that it can move to a new location because there is no evidence of a force strong enough to transport it (if you watch the whole video it will make more sense in context).

So my question is what is exactly the soul in Hinduism. I have heard it is seen as individual and moves from body to body after death, but on some sort of higher level there is actually no individual soul and no reincarnation. Can someone expand on this?

 

[Madhuri]

In Hinduism we distinguish matter from spirit. Anything studied in physics can only relate to matter. It cannot perceive or attempt to understand the nature of spirit.

A soul is spiritual. It cannot be perceived by material things or material laws. It is the life-force itself and the consciousness that comes with it; both of which are completely mysterious in the world of science.

The belief that you mentioned, about the soul not being individual and not reincarnating is not really accurate. There are Hindus who do not believe in the individuality of the soul but many do. In fact I think most do (someone correct me if I'm wrong). And most Hindus do believe that the soul reincarnates. That is a major part of Hindu belief.

 

[atanu]

I watched this video which was posted on my twitter


RDFRS: Higgs Boson and the Fundamental Nature of Reality - Sean Carroll

Its a very informative lecture about the recent discovery of the Higgs Boson and explains how the standard model of physics represents the true nature of the universe. I encourage you to watch the whole video if you have time (50 minutes) but I am interested in the last 10 minutes of it.

The first segment of the lecture talks about the universe's building blocks actually being waves (therefore non-material like we percieve) and thus very similar to what Hinduism describes as an illusion or maya which was pleasing to see. However in his last slides the professor says a few conclusions of standard model which suggests there can be no afterlife. There is no way if a soul exists, that it can move to a new location because there is no evidence of a force strong enough to transport it (if you watch the whole video it will make more sense in context).

So my question is what is exactly the soul in Hinduism. I have heard it is seen as individual and moves from body to body after death, but on some sort of higher level there is actually no individual soul and no reincarnation. Can someone expand on this?

I wrote big answers twice and both times the material vanished.

So, i guess, the higher powers stopped me. I am however allowed this much. Soul is not born. So it has no afterlife.

 

[Sumit]

Hinduism describes as an illusion or maya

Maya means Supernatural Power or Power of god.

There is no way if a soul exists, that it can move to a new location because there is no evidence of a force strong enough to transport it (if you watch the whole video it will make more sense in context).

Vayu is the force that takes soul from one place to another. Here Vayu does not mean "Air" , this force is also termed as Yam. However I need more time to go in depth of this subject.

So my question is what is exactly the soul in Hinduism.

It's free entity that always existed and will always exist.

I have heard it is seen as individual and moves from body to body after death

Yes

but on some sort of higher level there is actually no individual soul and no reincarnation. Can someone expand on this?

I don't agree with the word "no individual soul". This is against the concept of immortality of soul. However I agree that on some higher level there is no reincarnation. This state is called Mokesh or Peace. But this state is not permanent because if mokesh is permanant it will cease the process of creation. Mokesh lasts after a time period of 36000 cycles of creation (you can read Atharva Veda for more info about creation cycle)

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

I watched this video which was posted on my twitter


RDFRS: Higgs Boson and the Fundamental Nature of Reality - Sean Carroll

Its a very informative lecture about the recent discovery of the Higgs Boson and explains how the standard model of physics represents the true nature of the universe. I encourage you to watch the whole video if you have time (50 minutes) but I am interested in the last 10 minutes of it.

The first segment of the lecture talks about the universe's building blocks actually being waves (therefore non-material like we percieve) and thus very similar to what Hinduism describes as an illusion or maya which was pleasing to see. However in his last slides the professor says a few conclusions of standard model which suggests there can be no afterlife. There is no way if a soul exists, that it can move to a new location because there is no evidence of a force strong enough to transport it (if you watch the whole video it will make more sense in context).

So my question is what is exactly the soul in Hinduism. I have heard it is seen as individual and moves from body to body after death, but on some sort of higher level there is actually no individual soul and no reincarnation. Can someone expand on this?

I have a theory about the Atman, i think its a particle, i think it is a particle of life, also believe that it can be detected the same way the Higgs can be detected. just like one particle can transverse the entire Universe before it becomes a particle of sand, the same way i view Atman.

obviously there is no afterlife as there is no actual end to a Atman, just a cycle of coming and going, plus the afterlife implies a "Human Life in the same body with the same memories and personalities in some other mythological place as heaven or hell ect", but re-incarnation or rebirth is more of a cycle in the same time and space zone not of memory or personality or the body but the particle of Life known as Atman.

When i say the same time and space i do so as i believe that time and space are eternal.

 

[Maya3]

I have a theory about the Atman, i think its a particle, i think it is a particle of life, also believe that it can be detected the same way the Higgs can be detected. just like one particle can transverse the entire Universe before it becomes a particle of sand, the same way i view Atman.

obviously there is no afterlife as there is no actual end to a Atman, just a cycle of coming and going, plus the afterlife implies a "Human Life in the same body with the same memories and personalities in some other mythological place as heaven or hell ect", but re-incarnation or rebirth is more of a cycle in the same time and space zone not of memory or personality or the body but the particle of Life known as Atman.

When i say the same time and space i do so as i believe that time and space are eternal.

Nice way to see it! I like it.

Maya

 

[atanu]

I have a theory about the Atman, i think its a particle, i think it is a particle of life, also believe that it can be detected the same way the Higgs can be detected. ----.

When i say the same time and space i do so as i believe that time and space are eternal.

Allow me please. Atman, by definition, is that where from the mind-word issue. As per Upanishads, "who will know the knower?"

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

Allow me please. Atman, by definition, is that where from the mind-word issue. As per Upanishads, "who will know the knower?"

"who will know the knower?"


Maybe the one who does not Know?

Good point though, vary Advaitic

 

[Shakta]

In Advaitavada Shaktam the soul is Consciousness and is the substratum of existence. There need be no force to "move" it, for it is everywhere. One place where scientist seemingly stop is at the "waves" that make up matter. What is it that is "waving" or "vibrating"? Consciousness, the soul, vibration is the power or Shakti of Consciousness. Which the Soul is just Consciousness seeing itself as embodied within an animal or human, etc.