Nature shows the glory of God

[Sonic247]

Sometimes it is amazing to just look at the world around you. Especially if you are in a place relativly undisturbed by human settlement. The Bible says and I agree that nature speaks in a language understood by everyone.

Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth? Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death? Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all. Where [is] the way [where] light dwelleth? and [as for] darkness, where [is] the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths [to] the house thereof? Knowest thou [it], because thou wast then born? or [because] the number of thy days [is] great? Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war? By what way is the light parted, [which] scattereth the east wind upon the earth? Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; To cause it to rain on the earth, [where] no man [is; on] the wilderness, wherein [there is] no man; To satisfy the desolate and waste [ground]; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth? Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew? Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it? The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen. Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee? Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we [are]? Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

 

[moegypt]

Yes when we see the nature we know our god...

As muslim.. i find in Qur'an alot of ayat learning us this meaning:

(10:5) It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.

 

[Popeyesays]

Everything in existence is token of the Hand of God.

"A drop of the billowing ocean of His endless mercy hath adorned all creation with the ornament of existence, and a breath wafted from His peerless Paradise hath invested all beings with the robe of His sanctity and glory. A sprinkling from the unfathomed deep of His sovereign and all-pervasive Will hath, out of utter nothingness, called into being a creation which is infinite in its range and deathless in its duration. The wonders of His bounty can never cease, and the stream of His merciful grace can never be arrested. The process of His creation hath had no beginning, and can have no end."
(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 61)

Regards,
Scott

 

[ayani]

yes... i think this is something many faiths share... pointing to the beauty, delicacy, and ingeniousness of the natural world as a sign of God. as i read the Quran there are numerous surahs encouraging humans to consider the antural world as a living, dynamic sign of God's existence. there is so much beauty, surprise, and delicacy there, it's truly stunning.

 

[love]

God is my source of love.How can I view Him as evil?
I see His love all around me.I am in wonder and awe of life and nature. Of the universe that we cannot begin to perceive.I know how insignificant I am. But He loves me.

From a previous post

 

[Sonic247]

Yes when we see the nature we know our god...

As muslim.. i find in Qur'an alot of ayat learning us this meaning:

(10:5) It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.

Genesis 1:14-18- And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good.


Some people think the moon is the result of a collision with the earth, were the moon broke of from the earth, and although maybe they have come up with some theory about it’s different composition and why the collision resulted in one large moon instead of several small ones, it’s hard to think it’s coincidental that what doesn’t produce it’s own light is our source of light in the night, and convenient for keeping track of months, and is needed for our oceans, when it is nothing more than a floating ball of dirt, but even man God has made from the dust of the ground and it’s no wonder that dust should reflect the suns light for our light at night, and a man can reflect the true light which is God’s although he is dust and ashes. Like the Bible says “we have this treasure in earthen vessels.”

 

[~Amin~]

AND TO GOD BELONGS THE DOMINION
OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, AND
GOD IS OVER ALL THINGS COMPETENT.

INDEED IN THE CREATION OF THE HEAVENS
AND THE EARTH AND THE ALTERNATION OF
THE NIGHT AND THE DAY ARE SIGNS FOR
THOSE OF UNDERSTANDING. QUR'AN 3,189,190.

How clear are your signs O Great Lord,
my heart aches for Thee.
Knowing You is better then
life it self.
Peace.​

 

[Sonic247]

Okay now for some specifics- the word of God is related to rain, and it's results to the plants that grow. Also the human heart is related to the soil they grow in. The sun is related to the law of God, and lightning with judgement. (I'll add verses later, I'm exhausted now) Also times of trouble are compared to being overwhelmed with waves, peace to a river, rain can be either blessing or judgement from God, the rainbow is a symbol of God's promise, fire can be representing wrath, but not always. A lamb and lion are both compared to Jesus, as well as a star, the holy spirit is like wind, lustfull people are compared to dogs. ect

 

[ayani]

Sonic- it's remarkable you should mention this! just last evening at jumma a friend of mine relayed the human heart to soil, wherein the rain of God can penetrate and cause things to grow... or not. it's an oft-used but ultimately useful and vibrant analogy.

i have also thought of God as being something like the sun. my faith tells me that we are able to touch something of God's essence, and that He wishes for us to do this and strive for this before anything else... but we can not really touch God in His entirety- it would be like trying to place a hand on the globe of the sun- we would burn up before we could come close. nevertheless, the sun shines on us, and we are able, through this shining, to understand something of the qualities of the sun- light and warmth. if we go out into the shunshine and recognize these signs, that is the better thing. we can also stay within our houses and not seek out the sun's light, and remain in shadows.

 

[Sonic247]

that reminds me here is a psalm that relates to this topic-

Psalm 19

[[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which [is] as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, [and] rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth [is] from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD [are] right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD [is] pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the LORD [is] clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD [are] true [and] righteous altogether. More to be desired [are they] than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them is thy servant warned: [and] in keeping of them [there is] great reward. Who can understand [his] errors? cleanse thou me from secret [faults]. Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous [sins]; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

 

[joeboonda]

I am always amazed at the people who, upon examining the wonder, complexity and beauty of God's creation still cling tightly to the completely ridiculous theory of evolution. Their eyes have been truly blinded. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, as the Good Book says.

 

[Darkness]

I am always amazed at the people who, upon examining the wonder, complexity and beauty of God's creation still cling tightly to the completely ridiculous theory of evolution. Their eyes have been truly blinded. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, as the Good Book says.

I know a girl who believes in Evolution, yet sees the beauty of Creation. The Universe is truly amazing, but I do not need God, nor Evolution to explain it regardless if one or both of those are true. Why can't the Universe just be?

 

[joeboonda]

Like I said.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

One of my favorite verses from a song is from Nightwish's "The Carpenter":

"The carpenter;
I hear you through the symphonic voices of nature
The purity I could never doubt.
They tell me to lie on the grass and observe my savior,
The one crucified to the chirping of birds."

 

[Popeyesays]

I am always amazed at the people who, upon examining the wonder, complexity and beauty of God's creation still cling tightly to the completely ridiculous theory of evolution. Their eyes have been truly blinded. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, as the Good Book says.

To think that evoltion means that God is not the Creator is nonsensical to me.

Quantum theory does not deny God.

DNA does not deny God.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Hema]

In Hinduism also. :yes:

The Absolute Reality or Brahman manifested creation from itself through the vibration of the first sound "Om". Since creation manifested from Brahman, Brahman is present in all of creation and all of creation is present in Brahman. The sound "Om" continues to vibrate through the cosmos. This "Om" or God is present everyhwere...in the elements, in the trees, animals, humans etc. That is why we see ourselves as one with nature, instead of seperate from it. The Bhagvad Gita also states that a true devotee is one who sees God in all beings.

 

[doppelganger]

To think that evoltion means that God is not the Creator is nonsensical to me.

Quantum theory does not deny God.

DNA does not deny God.

I agree.

Evolution does cause problems if one wants to hold onto a peculiarly literal reading of Genesis though. So in joeboonda's case, his purposes prevent him from considering evolutionary theory as a viable model.

 

[UnTheist]

And he simply doesn't want it to be true, therefore it's false

I never understand why people think like that

 

[michel]

Sometimes it is amazing to just look at the world around you. Especially if you are in a place relativly undisturbed by human settlement. The Bible says and I agree that nature speaks in a language understood by everyone.

I am not a Bible reader, but I loved this quote (from Job:38 ?)......I guess I will have to read Job sometime.

I have to say that one of my passions is to look at every living thing around me, be it animal, bird, plant ot tree, and realize the wonder of God when I look at them........to see the wonderful diversity of creature, and to realise how little we humans are able to mimic life............

I often think of how boastful we are about the wonders we can achieve - and yet, we have never managed to create any form of life (not without having used some of Goid's spirit).

 

[9harmony]

"XCIII. Know thou that every created thing is a sign of the revelation of God.
Each, according to its capacity, is, and will ever remain, a token of the Almighty. Inasmuch as He, the sovereign Lord of all,
hath willed to reveal His sovereignty in the kingdom of names and attributes,
each and every created thing hath, through the act of the Divine Will,
been made a sign of His glory.
So pervasive and general is this revelation
that nothing whatsoever in the whole universe can be discovered
that doth not reflect His splendor...
...God grant that, with a penetrating vision, thou mayest perceive, in all things,
the sign of the revelation of Him Who is the Ancient King,
and recognize how exalted and sanctified from the whole creation
is that most holy and sacred Being."

(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 190)​