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NC Democrats try to keep the Green Party off the ballot, and fail

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.

This sort of thing comes around almost every election. Judging by past elections all a third party does is draw votes from either candidate, with never enough to win.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.

I regret having voted for the Green Party Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader in 2000, because he unfortunately took votes away from Al Gore winning the U.S. Presidential Election over George W. Bush. As much as I agree with the Green Party's political platform, I'd now rather have them off the ballot than to swing an election in favor of the G.O.P.. over Progressive Democrats!
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.

Neither of the two major parties want to be split but we need more parties in the US.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.
*Ahem*

Republican effort to remove Libertarians from November ballot rejected by Texas Supreme Court

Were we not discussing double stands earlier, @Shaul ?
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
I regret having voted for the Green Party Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader in 2000, because he unfortunately took votes away from Al Gore winning the U.S. Presidential Election over George W. Bush. As much as I agree with the Green Party's political platform, I'd now rather have them off the ballot than to swing an election in favor of the G.O.P.. over Progressive Democrats!

Remember Ross Perot? He was third party candidate.
Henry Ross Perot was an American business magnate, billionaire, politician and philanthropist. He was the founder and chief executive officer of Electronic Data Systems and Perot Systems. He ran an independent campaign in the 1992 U.S. presidential election and a third-party campaign in the 1996 U.S. presidential election as the nominee of the Reform Party, which was formed by grassroots s…
Ross Perot - Wikipedia
 

Suave

Simulated character
Remember Ross Perot? He was third party candidate.
Henry Ross Perot was an American business magnate, billionaire, politician and philanthropist. He was the founder and chief executive officer of Electronic Data Systems and Perot Systems. He ran an independent campaign in the 1992 U.S. presidential election and a third-party campaign in the 1996 U.S. presidential election as the nominee of the Reform Party, which was formed by grassroots s…
Ross Perot - Wikipedia
I'd like Reform Party candidates on the ballot considering they might very well likely take more votes away from the G.O.P. than from Progressive Democrats.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.

I'm fine with this. Do you think people shouldn't be? If so, why? How do you suggest people should react? The Democrats are the last, best hope against Republican authoritarianism. The Green Party is an impediment to that. The Democrats obeyed the law and respected its judgment.

Are you of the opinion that the Democrats owe something to the Republicans, some standard of behavior beyond obeying the law?

I frequently answered conservatives who claimed that election had been stolen with the same answer: I don't believe you, but do you think I ought to have objected if I did? If it were a fact that the only thing keeping Trump out of the White House for a second term was stealing the election, why wouldn't liberals applaud that? Perhaps your answer is that it would be undemocratic. It is not hypocrisy to suspend democratic principle to preserve democracy, just as it is not hypocritical to be intolerant of the intolerant, or for a pacifist to go to war to defend a peaceful society from an aggressor. If you disagree, please explain why.

Or perhaps you believe that the Democrats owe the Republicans a degree of respect and forbearance for being fellow Americans and partners in governance - the loyal opposition so to speak. If you do, please state how and why. It is my position that the Republicans are owed nothing, and that the Democrats ought to do to the Republicans whatever they find to be expedient, and that it is impossible to be unfair to them.

Or perhaps you are suggesting that people who love democracy abandon this antidemocratic party and vote Republican instead.

This is why whataboutism doesn't play in discussions of Democrats versus Republicans. If one supports Americanism - the principles that inform the Constitution such as democracy, egalitarianism, personal protected freedoms, church-state separation, the peaceful transfer of power - one simply can't do worse that vote Republican, and doing so is never a viable alternative whatever the Democrats do. Who would be the worst Democratic candidate for president for somebody who embraces those principles? Manchin or Sinema? Neither could be worse than just about any prominent Republican.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There is no double standard since the two cases have big differences. In North Carolina there was an organized campaign of deception to attempt to trick Green Party petition signers to renounce their signatures. An attempt that many suspect was led by Democrats. Republicans did nothing like that. The cases are fundamentally different.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.
The Green party?


Toto we are not in Kansas anymore!
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.

I don’t care for the Green party platform, but it’s shameful to try to stop people from having options.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Democrats tried to keep the Green Party off the North Carolina ballot. In an ironic move they said they were trying to prevent voter fraud. Their undemocratic attempt failed. The Green Party will be on the ballot.

North Carolina certifies the Green Party, which could allow it onto the Senate ballot

There are reports of people trying to get signers to rescind their signatures when there were found to be enough valid signatures.

North Carolina's Green Party says Democrats are working to keep it off 2022 ballot

The North Carolina Board of Elections voted to allow the Green Party to be on the ballot. Thus dashing another undemocratic move by the Democrat Party.
Next thing you know the GOP will be trying to keep abortion off the ballot ... oh, wait a minute?
 
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