Neanderthal Hunting: Elephants

[The Hammer]

Neanderthals Hunted and Butchered Massive Elephants 125,000 Years Ago | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

Over 100Kya, Neanderthals were hunting straight tusked elephants, and mammoths. Suggesting that they lived in large enough groups to necessitate hunting these massive animals, and were able to use almost all parts of them.

"Recently, researchers decided to give those [elephant] remains a closer look. They found a series of strategic, repetitive cut marks on the bones’ surface, suggesting that Neanderthals carefully butchered the enormous mammals for their fat, meat and even their brains. This behavior likely persisted at the site for more than 2,000 years over dozens of generations, per the researchers."

"The dismembering process would’ve taken between 200 and 600 hours if done by one person, and it yielded a massive amount of meat: more than 2,500 daily portions of 4,000 calories each, the researchers calculate. That would’ve been enough to feed 25 Neanderthals for three months, 100 for a month and 350 for a week. "

"Based on the sheer amount of food one straight-tusked elephant could provide, the findings suggest Neanderthals knew how to store and preserve meat, likely by smoking or drying. "

 

[Audie]

Neanderthals Hunted and Butchered Massive Elephants 125,000 Years Ago | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

Over 100Kya, Neanderthals were hunting straight tusked elephants, and mammoths. Suggesting that they lived in large enough groups to necessitate hunting these massive animals, and were able to use almost all parts of them.

"Recently, researchers decided to give those [elephant] remains a closer look. They found a series of strategic, repetitive cut marks on the bones’ surface, suggesting that Neanderthals carefully butchered the enormous mammals for their fat, meat and even their brains. This behavior likely persisted at the site for more than 2,000 years over dozens of generations, per the researchers."

"The dismembering process would’ve taken between 200 and 600 hours if done by one person, and it yielded a massive amount of meat: more than 2,500 daily portions of 4,000 calories each, the researchers calculate. That would’ve been enough to feed 25 Neanderthals for three months, 100 for a month and 350 for a week. "

"Based on the sheer amount of food one straight-tusked elephant could provide, the findings suggest Neanderthals knew how to store and preserve meat, likely by smoking or drying. "

And, freezing.

So now it's midwinter 30 below.
Slabs or rock hard meat

See how cooking would be invented-
if it wasn't already .

 

[The Hammer]

And, freezing.

So now it's midwinter 30 below.
Slabs or rock hard meat

See how cooking would be invented-
if it wasn't already .

True. Freezing would have been another good method of preservation.

 

[We Never Know]

Neanderthals Hunted and Butchered Massive Elephants 125,000 Years Ago | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine

Over 100Kya, Neanderthals were hunting straight tusked elephants, and mammoths. Suggesting that they lived in large enough groups to necessitate hunting these massive animals, and were able to use almost all parts of them.

"Recently, researchers decided to give those [elephant] remains a closer look. They found a series of strategic, repetitive cut marks on the bones’ surface, suggesting that Neanderthals carefully butchered the enormous mammals for their fat, meat and even their brains. This behavior likely persisted at the site for more than 2,000 years over dozens of generations, per the researchers."

"The dismembering process would’ve taken between 200 and 600 hours if done by one person, and it yielded a massive amount of meat: more than 2,500 daily portions of 4,000 calories each, the researchers calculate. That would’ve been enough to feed 25 Neanderthals for three months, 100 for a month and 350 for a week. "

"Based on the sheer amount of food one straight-tusked elephant could provide, the findings suggest Neanderthals knew how to store and preserve meat, likely by smoking or drying. "

If they bring back the wooly mammoth, they need to bring back the Neanderthals too

 

[The Hammer]

If they bring back the wooly mammoth, they need to bring back the Neanderthals too

That.. might present some ethical dilemmas. We still won't even clone a standard H. Sapiens.

 

[We Never Know]

That.. might present some ethical dilemmas. We still won't even clone a standard H. Sapiens.

Wooly mammoth, Neanderthals, us... we are all just animals.

 

[The Hammer]

Wooly mammoth, Neanderthals, us... we are all just animals.

I don't disagree. Cloning back extinct species is one thing.

I'm not sure I like the idea of being Neanderthals ack, but it presents and interesting thought experiment.

I don't think we honestly have enough genetic material from them to do so either way.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That.. might present some ethical dilemmas. We still won't even clone a standard H. Sapiens.

If something went wrong there would be little problem in eliminating the Mammoths. Eliminating a whole subspecies of human beings would be an entirely different matter.

 

[The Hammer]

If something went wrong there would be little problem in eliminating the Mammoths. Eliminating a whole subspecies of human beings would be an entirely different matter.

It may give us wonderful insight into our own evolutionary history, and physiological needs too though.

 

[We Never Know]

If something went wrong there would be little problem in eliminating the Mammoths. Eliminating a whole subspecies of human beings would be an entirely different matter.

What could go wrong?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What could go wrong?

Often we don't know before it is too late. Ask Australians what could go wrong with a few bunny rabbits. Or mice.

 

[We Never Know]

Often we don't know before it is too late. Ask Australians what could go wrong with a few bunny rabbits. Or mice.

Oh I know about the rabbits. I believe the rabbits were introduced to be hunted. I don't recall mice being purposely introduced.

Introducing a current species doesn't compare with bringing back an extinct species.

But according to science will help with global warming by aiding the northern ecosystems. Which I think is a false claim. Thats like saying bringing back the megalodon will help with warming oceans.

So I ask again,, what could go wrong?


Also how long would it be before special hunting permits are sold to hunt the mammoth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh I know about the rabbits. I believe the rabbits were introduced to be hunted. I don't recall mice being purposely introduced.

Introducing a current species doesn't compare with bringing back an extinct species.

But according to science will help with global warming by aiding the northern ecosystems. Which I think is a false claim. Thats like saying bringing back the megalodon will help with warming oceans.

So I ask again,, what could go wrong?


Also how long would it be before special hunting permits are sold to hunt the mammoth?

We really do not know what could go wrong was the point. The Cane Toad was introduced on purpose and set wild in Australia. That did not work every well either. And like it or not Neanderthals are people. There would be huge moral problems in getting rid of them if necessary. The mammoth probably would not be a problem ,but I could be wrong.

 

[We Never Know]

We really do not know what could go wrong was the point. The Cane Toad was introduced on purpose and set wild in Australia. That did not work every well either. And like it or not Neanderthals are people. There would be huge moral problems in getting rid of them if necessary. The mammoth probably would not be a problem ,but I could be wrong.

Again... Introducing a current species into a habitat that it isn't native to doesn't compare with bringing back an extinct species to its native habitat.

If we don't know what could go wrong, we probably shouldn't do it. But they have to do something to produce results for the funding they have received.

 

[The Hammer]

What could go wrong?

Yeah.... look at any invasive species. Kudzu in Canada and the US South. Himalayan blackberries in the US, amongst other things.

 

[Heyo]

If something went wrong there would be little problem in eliminating the Mammoths. Eliminating a whole subspecies of human beings would be an entirely different matter.

We possibly did it before. And we weren't very squeamish about it in the past.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Often we don't know before it is too late. Ask Australians what could go wrong with a few bunny rabbits. Or mice.

Heh...a few is fine. It's their propensity for rampant population explosion that is more problematic...

 

[lewisnotmiller]

We possibly did it before. And we weren't very squeamish about it in the past.

I could see us doing it, but the most recent studies of this didn't seem suggestive of deliberate genocide when last I checked. More accidental.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We possibly did it before. And we weren't very squeamish about it in the past.

Possibly. But our morals as species have improved quite a bit since then.

 

[Heyo]

I could see us doing it, but the most recent studies of this didn't seem suggestive of deliberate genocide when last I checked. More accidental.

Yes, but we also have examples of deliberate but failed attempts.