Negotiators release $118 billion border bill as GOP leaders call it dead in the House

[fantome profane]

If the policies were actually illegal, they wouldn't be approved and implemented.

That is just adorable.

 

[Firenze]

Illegals can't vote but anchor babies eventually will when coming of age in 18 short years.

You mean after they are working the jobs entitled people feel are beneath them - and paying taxes?

 

[sun rise]

"invasion" is such an emotional word. I hope your blood pressure is not too high @Twilight Hue.

 

[McBell]

If the policies were actually illegal, they wouldn't be approved and implemented.

Biden's puppeteers didn't like those policies because they wanted the foreign invasion to occur , and they were / are massively successful right after removing the effective policies in place from the Trump administration that kept the illegals pretty much out of the country.

But of course you're in denial of those facts because I suspect that you support the invasion as well. Am I right?

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[Twilight Hue]

"invasion" is such an emotional word. I hope your blood pressure is not too high @Twilight Hue.

No I think Invasion would be a proper and accurate assessment of the ongoing situation at the southern border.

I would agree that the Invasion would undoubtfully affect a person's blood pressure at the brunt of it who's trying to stop it.

Others might find the invasion quite enjoyable, such as for those in the federal government and present Administration orchestrating it all.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

No I think Invasion would be a proper and accurate assessment of the ongoing situation at the southern border.

Then you literally don't believe in the founding principles of the USA.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Then you literally don't believe in the founding principles of the USA.

Oh but I do. Those people are called migrants who abide by the proper steps and procedures in obtaining legal citizenship and enjoying the benefit the country has to offer.

On the other foot, its clear the founding principles are clearly not designed for illegals.

You literally do alternatively for some reason, believe that the founding principles must also apply to any and all outright lawbreakers entering the country however.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Oh but I do. Those people are called migrants who abide by the proper steps and procedures in obtaining legal citizenship and enjoying the benefit the country has to offer.

On the other foot, its clear the founding principles are clearly not designed for illegals.

You literally do alternatively for some reason, believe that the founding principles must also apply to any and all outright lawbreakers entering the country however.

Because literally closing the border, preventing people from engaging in the very legal processes designed to enable them to legally become citizens in direct contravention of international law and the fundamental principles of your country is TOTALLY cool.

Just admit you're a racist already. Nobody is buying it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Because literally closing the border, preventing people from engaging in the very legal processes designed to enable them to legally become citizens in direct contravention of international law and the fundamental principles of your country is TOTALLY cool.

Just admit you're a racist already. Nobody is buying it.

Well you can use the "woke" term of racism in your own particular definition in hopes to dissuading trains of thought on the matter.

That simply doesn't work with me.

There was a stay in Mexico process, now stricken from the record by the Biden regime that was doable and working with the cooperation of the Mexican Government where the path to citizenship was open to anybody there and the venue for initiating citizenship was never really closed to anybody wishing to apply.


The only stipulation being that one is not allowed into the country past a specified point until that process is legally approved and that person can then legally enter without any problem with the understanding of limitations such as expiration dates on visas and green cards and the like.

So your assessment of people not being allowed to enter is essentially b******* because people are still allowed to approach a Border Station proper to initiate the process and return to their former location until the process is approved and can re-enter and go from there.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Well you can use the "woke" term of racism in your own particular definition in hopes to dissuading trains of thought on the matter.

Ah yes, that well-known "woke" word: "racist".

I love you. Never change.

That simply doesn't work with me.

There was a stay in Mexico process, now stricken from the record by the Biden regime that was doable and working with the cooperation of the Mexican Government where the path to citizenship was open to anybody there and the venue for initiating citizenship was never really closed to anybody wishing to apply.

The only stipulation being that one is not allowed into the country past a specified point until that process is legally approved and that person can then legally enter without any problem with the understanding of limitations such as expiration dates on visas and green cards and the like.

Blah blah blah. Stop acting like you care about legal processes when you are explicitly against the law when it suits you. I've already exposed you as a fan of defying federal and international law and imposing excessive police violence.

Stop pretending you want a legal solution when all you really want is the law to be broken in ways that suit you.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Ah yes, that well-known "woke" word: "racist".

I love you. Never change.


Blah blah blah. Stop acting like you care about legal processes when you are explicitly against the law when it suits you.

I'll just wait till you take three breaths and calm down, have a cup of tea, and then resume the conversation if you wish to.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I'll just wait till you take three breaths and calm down, have a cup of tea, and then resume the conversation if you wish to.

What "conversation"? This is a lecture. It's about time you learned something.

 

[Father Heathen]

"invasion" is such an emotional word. I hope your blood pressure is not too high @Twilight Hue.

So is "regime" when applied to Biden. It's a flag that indicates their post isn't worth taking seriously.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What "conversation"? This is a lecture. It's about time you learned something.

I learned quite a lot about the matter including the history of border control and the need for it by experts on history.

I would recommend you as well take some time to enjoy a lecture from the experts on the history of border control and why it was established in the first place.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So is "regime" when applied to Biden. It's a flag that indicates their post isn't worth taking seriously.

I'd be immensely happy to discontinue the word "regime" if and when the Biden regime starts following the Constitution and fulfills its duty of securing and protecting its citizens that it pledged to do under the Constitution and oath of office.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I learned quite a lot about the matter including the history of border control and the need for it by experts on history.

I would recommend you as well take some time to enjoy a lecture from the experts on the history of border control and why it was established in the first place.

Way to literally not address a thing I wrote.

Nobody here has argued against "border control". They're arguing against illegally closing the border, denying people legal right of entry and their right to due process to become legal citizens.

See, this is why you're not taken seriously in any political debate. You're never actually able to support the actual positions you claim to hold, so you make up positions nobody has attacked and pretend you're ACTUALLY defending those.

You're not. You're not defending "border control", you're defending CLOSING THE BORDER because you're terrified beyond reason of brown people. Dude, they literally pay taxes. They make your country better. You have no reason to be so scared of them. You've just been lied to.

 

[Twilight Hue]

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Way to literally not address a thing I wrote.

Nobody here has argued against "border control". They're arguing against illegally closing the border, denying people legal right of entry and their right to due process to become legal citizens.

See, this is why you're not taken seriously in any political debate. You're never actually able to support the actual positions you claim to hold, so you make up positions nobody has attacked and pretend you're ACTUALLY defending those.

You're not. You're not defending "border control", you're defending CLOSING THE BORDER because you're terrified beyond reason of brown people. Dude, they literally pay taxes. They make your country better. You have no reason to be so scared of them. You've just been lied to.

That's very misguided and completely incorrect.

The objective is to closing the border to illegals. Meaning people who are in places they are not supposed to be and crossing over where they are not supposed to be.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

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That's very misguided and completely incorrect.

The objective is to closing the border to illegals. Meaning people who are in places they are not supposed to be and crossing over where they're not supposed to be.

That's not what "illegals" means. Read your own laws. People are legally allowed to enter the USA undocumented and then declare asylum.

Why do you pretend to care about the law when you don't know what the law says?

 

[Father Heathen]

I'd be immensely happy to discontinue the word "regime" if and when the Biden regime starts following the Constitution and fulfills its duty of securing and protecting its citizens that it pledged to do under the Constitution and oath of office.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

Did you really think that no one would notice you holding democrats and republicans to completely different standards? Of course, that's the very definition of conservatism: "In-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Did you really think that no one would notice you holding democrats and republicans to completely different standards? Of course, that's the very definition of conservatism: "In-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

Remember, "treason" is when you refuse to take authoritarian control of the border in contravention of international law and the founding principles of the nation in order to prevent brown people from entering the country.

However, "treason" is NOT defying the democratically elected government and federal mandates in order to take the law into your own hands in defiance of both the Constitution and federal authority.

It totally makes sense, in the minds of Republicans.