New Jan 6th video of them constructing the hangman's gallows.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Maybe you should study what a real gallows is rather than pretend this prop up is the real deal.

Is this your way of volunteering to put your neck into a replica of this thing?

 

[Shaul]

I saw a neighbor put one of these up on his yard last Halloween. Should I call the police?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I saw a neighbor put one of these up on his yard last Halloween. Should I call the police?

Did they break into your home while they did it and hunt you down? Then yes, you should call the police.

Was it obviously just a fun display to celebrate a spooky holiday? Then no.

This seems rather obvious.

Context matters. But I'm sure you already know that.

 

[Unfettered]

They chanted "Hang Mike Pence!"

The people who built the gallows shouted "Hang Mike Pence?"

 

[SkepticThinker]

The people who built the gallows shouted "Hang Mike Pence?"

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"If Pence caved, we're gonna drag that m*****f***** through the streets!"

 

[Twilight Hue]

Somehow this softens the fact that Trump made statements that led his followers to think Mike pence should be executed?

It's not really relevant that if Trump's mob got their hands on pence would they actually try to kill him, or kill him. It's why they had in their minds that Mike did something traitorous that he had to be killed at all. He didn't. The mob was lied to.

The traitor wasn't Mike. The traitor has serious money problems, and faces four criminal cases.

To my mind everyone has access to the facts and information about the traitor, and if they continue to support him they too are traitors.

I'm sure if that was the case, then treason should be listed as one of the charges.

Where exactly is the charge of treason here?

 

[Unfettered]

"If Pence caved, we're gonna drag that m*****f***** through the streets!"

Yeah, I've seen all those videos. I ask again, did the people who built the gallows shout the chant?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yeah, I've seen all those videos. I ask again, did the people who built the gallows shout the chant?

You clearly didn't actually watch them then. Your answer was contained within them.









(The answer is yes, the people who built the gallows and many others who were present inside and outside the building chanted "Hang Mike Pence!")

 

[fantome profane]

I saw a neighbor put one of these up on his yard last Halloween. Should I call the police?

Maybe. Whose lawn did they put it on?

 

[Unfettered]

You clearly didn't actually watch them then. Your answer was contained within them.









(The answer is yes, the people who built the gallows and many others who were present inside and outside the building chanted "Hang Mike Pence!")

Go ahead and link the video that shows the people who built the gallows chanting, and include the timestamp. I won't hold my breath, though. I've watched the videos and that crucial evidence isn't there.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Go ahead and link the video that shows the people who built the gallows chanting, and include the timestamp. I won't hold my breath, though. I've watched the videos and that crucial evidence isn't there.

I already did, dude. Do you need a referral to an optometrist?

 

[Spice]

An effigy involves an actual image or a representation of a person.

See how in these photos there are actual effigies? There was no Mike Pence effigy on January 6th.
Just a gallows and some chanting, "Hang Mike Pence!"

I find it disconcerting that this glaring difference needs to be pointed out.

And, if I'm seeing correctly, these effigies were constructed on private property, by unidentified individuals, not on government property by an organized, mass gathering.

 

[SkepticThinker]

And, if I'm seeing correctly, these effigies were constructed on private property, by unidentified individuals, not on government property by an organized, mass gathering.

That appears to be the case.

Also, I don't see any actual effigies at the gallows. Just a gallows. And the "Hang Mike Pence!" chanting.

 

[Spice]

You may be right. Though, that could have been said at the outset about the droves of persons they've since charged. They identified and found all those folks. It is a determined DoJ!

The substance of my participation here is very simple: I've looked at what everyone else has looked and I see no crime related to the gallows artwork. I see no grounds for charging them with plotting or attempting to murder anyone with their artwork. And I believe the hyperbole to the contrary is ridiculous, notwithstanding the gravity of the overall situation and the crimes that were committed.

Agreed. However, if you're visiting an art gallery that has not properly secured a display of antique swords, and someone grabs one to commit harm, is the museum held liable? If a faction of these protestors had been riled up enough to put the noose on someone, even if it didn't result in a complete hanging, would the people who brought the materials and constructed the display be liable?

For the answer, look at the Alex Baldwin situation. If they handled the prop, they were held responsible in some degree.

I think many who were swept up in the excitement of J6 soon realized how bad things could have gone. Unfortunately there are more to replace those numbers should another "rally" be called.

 

[F1fan]

I'm sure if that was the case, then treason should be listed as one of the charges.

Where exactly is the charge of treason here?

There are enough charges against Trump to satisfy me. I guess you want more.

As long as he is held accountable for any of his crimes I will be happy.

 

[F1fan]

Go ahead and link the video that shows the people who built the gallows chanting, and include the timestamp. I won't hold my breath, though. I've watched the videos and that crucial evidence isn't there.

No doubt watching Newsmax edits. Right wing disinformation works on the poorly informed.

 

[We Never Know]

There it is. That is real lumber those people are carrying, measured and pre-cut for the purpose of the thing they intend to construct. They brought real hardware with them and the tools to put it together. And they brought a real rope with which to really hang real people.

It is extremely important that we remember, this was real, this really happened. And there is no reason to believe that this is not going to happen again.

Do not listen to anyone who tells you this was not real. Do not listen to anyone who tells you this can't happen again. And do not forget this happened.

My question is why is there no documentation or video of it being taken down after Jan 6th?.

 

[Colt]

An effigy involves an actual image or a representation of a person.

See how in these photos there are actual effigies? There was no Mike Pence effigy on January 6th.
Just a gallows and some chanting, "Hang Mike Pence!"

I find it disconcerting that this glaring difference needs to be pointed out.

I think there is a form of wishful drama-queenery going on here with people taking the stunt soooooo seriously!

 

[SkepticThinker]

I think there is a form of wishful drama-queenery going on here with people taking the stunt soooooo seriously!

Yeah, so much so that you couldn't even be bothered to address anything I said.

 

[Laniakea]

I don't think anyone even knows who there were.

And yet more than a thousand people have been arrested who were there.
Seems like the ability of the FBI to go after people is rather selective. Cops who removed barricades aren't known, the pipe bomber isn't known, and now the people who took the time to construct a gallows managed to do it without being known.