Laniakea
Not of this world
Show us video of him doing anything else and then you might have a point.
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New Jan 6th video of them constructing the hangman's gallows.
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Show us video of him doing anything else and then you might have a point.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Just trying to make you see the irony of your position.
And then rewarded: New York City reaches $13.7 million settlement for police response to protests over killing of George Floyd
So...."reasons"?
That's never been good enough before. Still isn't.
I'm neither liberal nor conservative.
Neither Democrat nor Republican.
So defending one with criticism of
the other doesn't work on me.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Where is the Irony? A suit was brought in NY court and evidence was collected and presented and a guilty verdict and judgement was delivered and the loser in this case the people of NYC in the form of their government paid.
Irony would be if you thought that because you like one of the parties in a suit, you would feel that the application of laws in court was wrong.
If that were the plan, there would have been no need for fake electors.
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
Then just toss me a bone. Clearly I did not see what you saw. Rather than send me on a treasure hunt, just provide the timestamp.
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
In both cases I would say there is good chance of being held liable. In neither case would I expect a charge of "attempted murder." But that's what is being asserted in this thread, per the OP. The OP asserts that the persons who built the gallows art built it for the purpose of hanging someone. That's quite different than the scenarios you just offered.
I don't doubt that.
Why prejudice the rally because of those who did wrong? Those who didn't riot clearly were there for a rally, not a "rally."
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
Just as left-wing disinformation works on the poorly informed. Neither statement offers anything of value to the discussion, just attempts to foment contention.
More to the point, if you have a source showing the salient detail, I'd love to see it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If I had a nickle for every person I heard about stringing up a politician, I'd be fabulously wealthy by now.
Unfettered
A striving disciple of Jesus Christ
Would you share with me? (when you strike it rich, don't forget the little people)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If only striking it rich was that easy.
If I had a nickel for every time in the last 4 years that Republicans tried to get their way through violent plots against high-ranking public officials, I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I can't wait to hear all the predictions about the upcoming election. I have my lawn chair, popcorn , soda, and beer all on standby
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Again, I agree. It would probably fall to something like reckless endangerment.
You're right. The people who were down the street to hear the speeches and did not move to the Capitol, do not deserve to be held in the same light. However, I was speaking to those who were a part of the Capitol crowd. Many there had no idea there was going to be such violations of law and civility and quickly regretted the association, even if their political affiliation remained unchanged. I still feel there are many, even after all the arrests and convictions, who would gladly, and with fore-thought, attend a rally with nefarious intentions if called upon. That's the upsetting part that still hangs over us, IMO.
It seems that in Plan A, its purpose was to threaten Mike Pence into going along with Trump's "fake electors" coup attempt.
Plan B would have been to kill Mike Pence and have Trump choose a replacement (via the process in the 25th Amendment) who would be willing to carry out the VP's part of Trump's coup attempt, then proceed with the coup. However, I think that if the mob had got their hands on Pence, it's questionable whether they would have had the presence of mind to haul him out to the gallows rather than kill him on the spot. There certainly would have been... logistical challenges in hauling Pence outside without being stopped.
... so really, I'd say the gallows' real purpose was to look effective enough to scare the crap out of Mike Pence. Being an actually usable gallows was secondary (edit: but still related to its main purpose).
No. When Trump won the 2016 election, this is what happened the day after his inauguration: The Women's March: a huge, peaceful demonstration event that took place in multiple locations. It was the largest single-day protest in US history.
2017 Women's March - Wikipedia
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That is a book they turn to.Google up "The Turner Diaries The Day of the Rope."
The crowd blaming the violence on BLM would fit into the narrative of the book.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
One theory is that the insurrectionists wanted Pence to flee D.C. so he couldn't act on the Electoral College certification and that's why Pence refused to leave the scene even though the Secret Service told him he should leave to some distant location of their choosing.
Laniakea
Not of this world
That's why there were none.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
It was. I doubt they were going to shout slogans in their faces. I certainly wouldn't have assumed it were I a Senator in the Capitol that day.