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New Mexico Sherriff Will Not Enforce Governors Firearms Ban

Orbit

I'm a planet
See your evident and ardent belief in
the merit of a governor capriciously and arbitrarily
revoking any other constitutional right.

They don't even pretend it's not a constitutional
right.

Like your Jefferson said, here's your denocracy
if you can keep it.

Here you're cheering on violating the constitution,
and calling names when anyone objects

That is shameful.
Your opinion still doesn't change the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional. The rule of law is important.
BS. All courts are under the Jurisdiction of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Any officer. civilian or military , can refuse unlawful orders from their superiors.
That is insurrectionist BS
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Your opinion still doesn't change the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional. The rule of law is important.

That is insurrectionist BS

"the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional"

Lets go with that. If a governor throws out a law that may infringe on the 2nd admendment and it is challeged by law enforcement and citizens, that law pretty much is void until the courts uphold and validate that law. Do you agree?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Your opinion still doesn't change the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional. The rule of law is important.

That is insurrectionist BS
Ptediction: at considerable expense to
the taxpayers the courts will find it unconstitutional.

Prediction 2. The finest scientific instruments will
detect no effect on crime

Prediction 3. If it were any other of the I
Constitutionally guaranteed rights involved,
your opinion would change.
( bonus of double
speed if a "R" politician did it.)

Prediction 4 Your opinion won't mean any more then
than now.

Did you hear-btw- that the constitution was written by
Insurrectionists?
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Ptediction: at considerable expense to
the taxpayers the courts will find it unconstitutional.

Prediction 2. The finest scientific instruments will
detect no effect on crime

Prediction 3. If it were any other of the I
Constitutionally guaranteed rights involved,
your opinion would change.
( bonus of double
speed if a "R" politician did it.)

Prediction 4 Your opinion won't mean any more then
than now.

Did you hear-btw- that the constitution was written by
Insurrectionists?
It's still up to the courts, lady.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It's still up to the courts, lady.
True. I believe no less an American than
G. Washington said that after he heard of the dust- up
at concord bridge.


The duty of civil disobedience- btw- takes
courage of conviction. Not " Oh the the authorities
choose for us".

I breathed tear gas in the streets of Hong
Kong not long ago.
We lost of course.

Do you even know what that was about?

In a sentence, it was the govt promising one thing,
doing another to restrict our rights.

We lost but we didn't go like sheep.

Not that you do either.

You cheer the usurpers.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
True. I believe no less an American than
G. Washington said that after he heard of the dust- up
at concord bridge.


The duty of civil disobedience- btw- takes
courage of conviction. Not " Oh the the authorities
choose for us".

I breathed tear gas in the streets of Hong
Kong not long ago.
We lost of course.

Do you even know what that was about?

In a sentence, it was the govt promising one thing,
doing another to restrict our rights.

We lost but we didn't go like sheep.

Not that you do either.

You cheer the usurpers.
I cheer the rule of law. Cops don't decide if laws are constitutional, courts do.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I cheer the rule of law. Cops don't decide if laws are constitutional, courts do.

So..... You must have missed this post

"the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional"

Lets go with that. If a governor throws out a law that may infringe on the 2nd admendment and it is challeged by law enforcement and citizens, that law pretty much is void until the courts uphold and validate that law. Do you agree?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A law made by a sheriff(marshall), not a governor or court.
And how did the people react?
They were well received, travel advisors said leave guns at home, and anyone carrying in public wad assumed to be out for trouble and was soon due for a visit from the sheriff.
Facts are, gun control was way tight, especially compared to today, during the so-called "Wild West" days, and where there were issues with gun violence (such as seen in Tombstone) the solution was not more guns.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Moral cowardice always has an excuse.

"Just following orders" is a popular fav.
I would bet the people here that say 'the law is the law' break laws while driving, or doing other things, etc, on a daily basis.

IOW the law is the law if they agree
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
"the fact that it is up to the COURTS, not the cops, to decide whether a law is unconstitutional"

Lets go with that. If a governor throws out a law that may infringe on the 2nd admendment and it is challeged by law enforcement and citizens, that law pretty much is void until the courts uphold and validate that law. Do you agree?
Not void, just not enforced. As far as I know the injunction is legal till it's overturned.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Seems that the Bernalillo County Sheriff will not enforce the Governors firearms ban in Benalillo county New Mexico.
I for one also agree that this is an unconstitutional act by the governor along with those on both sides of the political spectrum
And to satisfy our leftwing members

The Sheriff's job is not to interpret the law. Only enforce it.

He is absolutely in the wrong. How is this person right in any way?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
The Sheriff's job is not to interpret the law. Only enforce it.

He is absolutely in the wrong. How is this person right in any way?
What if this was a law you didn’t like, like rounding up people for their ethnicity or sexual orientation? Or how about just banning drag shows?

If a Sheriff refused to enforce a law like that they would be a hero in my opinion.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
As a Bernalillo County resident myself, I do support stricter regulation on guns, but I fail to see how a 30 day gun restriction is going to change anything. Those carrying guns will still carry guns. Those out to rob or kill will still rob or kill. Outlaws, by definition, ignore the law. What does the governor expect will be be changed in 30 days?

What it does seem to have accomplished is a huge pretext for a GOP claim of government tyranny, and the anti-gun, anti-constitution, Fascist agenda of the Democratic party.
This will not end well.
 
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