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New Mexico Sherriff Will Not Enforce Governors Firearms Ban

Audie

Veteran Member
The Second Amendment is over 230 years old, and completely inadequate to deal with the current society and weaponry.

By rights it should have been removed decades ago.
ETLIMINATE all,rights that don't work out to
everyone's satisfaction.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The 1st Amendment is just as old.
Does age alone negate validity?
I am pretty sure that I did not type "chopped liver" in my previous post.

Truly, it should be fairly self-evident, but if I must: the weaponry available today for USA civilians is entirely out of proportion with either typical personal responsibility and maturity; any conceivable upsides from a civilian role towards social stability; and any sane considerations about public safety.

It isn't exactly rocket science.

I am no adept of the virtual cult of the Founding Fathers that seems to exist in the USA, but odds are that if they were all magically transported to the current time they would not want to keep the Amendment either.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am pretty sure that I did not type "chopped liver" in my previous post.
On this we agree.
But the Constitution has the flexibility to deal
with many changes over the centuries. And
so it has with gun ownership....just not in the
way you might want.
As I see it, gun regulation is unconstitutionally
strict in some ways, yet fails to regulate in ways
both useful & constitutional in others. Clearly,
leaders just fail to appreciate my superior
understanding of the situation.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Because a person uses only 1 gun at a time,

Take that back!
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Ok, but seriously, I think owning a lot of guns is an indication of a certain mind set. Not in every case, but often I think it indicates a paranoid fearful personality. It is not just the guns, but it is a culture that loves guns and gun violence.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
To believe that that's a problem worth addressing distracts
from solving real problems.
Those I know who own many guns don't fit your stereotype.
Sure, whenever there is a mass shooting there are always those who say it is not the guns, it is a mental health issue. But try to talk about mental health, and that is not worth addressing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sure, whenever there is a mass shooting there are always those who say it is not the guns, it is a mental health issue.
That's not the issue we've been addressing.
Changing the subject cuz you see your error?
But try to talk about mental health, and that is not worth addressing.
That's absurd.
Mental health is very much worth addressing,
& I've posted ad nauseum about how more
attention to it is useful, particularly regarding
gun rights.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
On this we agree.
But the Constitution has the flexibility to deal
with many changes over the centuries. And
so it has with gun ownership....just not in the
way you might want.
As I see it, gun regulation is unconstitutionally
strict in some ways, yet fails to regulate in ways
both useful & constitutional in others. Clearly,
leaders just fail to appreciate my superior
understanding of the situation.
Clearly.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Mental health is very much worth addressing,
& I've posted ad nauseum about how more
attention to it is useful, particularly regarding
gun rights.
Great, then I would like to address the issue by saying I think owning a lot of guns is an indication of a certain mind set. Not in every case, but often I think it indicates a paranoid fearful personality. It is not just the guns, but it is a culture that loves guns and gun violence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Great, then I would like to address the issue by saying I think owning a lot of guns is an indication of a certain mind set. Not in every case, but often I think it indicates a paranoid fearful personality.
How many people do you know with a large gun collection?
I'd have to take off my shoes to count'm all, & I don't know
a single one who fits your stereotype.
I have many dozens of antique engines & machine tools.
Many people are that way about guns. We like what we like.

To fear that some people own many guns seems paranoid
misunderstanding. I've no fears other than adventures
in health care & dentistry. Yet I once owned many guns.
I deaccessioned them because they weren't practical to
display for the public. Machines weighing many tons
pose less difficulty....except for transport & installation.
 
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
How many people do you know with a large gun collection?
I'd have to take off my shoes to count'm all, & I don't know
a single one who fits your stereotype.
I have many dozens of antique engines & machine tools.
Many people are that way about guns. We like what we like.

I once owned many more guns, but they weren't practical
to display for the public. Machines weighing many tons
pose less difficulty....except for transport & installation.
Oh God, for the sake of all humanity, I beg you please, do not take off your shoes!


Are you really going to deny that there is a problem with gun culture in the U.S.?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Why ask if I deny something that I've not denied?
It seems that your posts are less than ingenuous in
this discussion.
Great, then I just want to say that one sign of the problem can be seen in certain people owning a lot of guns. I think owning a lot of guns is an indication of a certain mind set. Not in every case, but often I think it indicates a paranoid fearful personality. It is not just the guns, but it is a culture that loves guns and gun violence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Great, then I just want to say that one sign of the problem can be seen in certain people owning a lot of guns. I think owning a lot of guns is an indication of a certain mind set. Not in every case, but often I think it indicates a paranoid fearful personality.
I understand that you believe that.
It is not just the guns, but it is a culture that loves guns and gun violence.
Now you're venturing into an area of some agreement.
Add to it a culture of lacking a proper sense of
responsibility towards dangerous things, eg,
guns, cars, drugs, food, caring for our environment.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I understand that you believe that.

Now you're venturing into an area of some agreement.
Add to it a culture of lacking a proper sense of
responsibility towards dangerous things, eg,
guns, cars, drugs, food, caring for our environment.
This is why I love you Rev, you always see reason. Eventually.
 
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