Don't know how ta break it to ya, but anonymous Quora.com questions are not "research".
Also, this may be the first time you are hearing it, but not everything on the internet is true.
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Don't know how ta break it to ya, but anonymous Quora.com questions are not "research".
Also, this may be the first time you are hearing it, but not everything on the internet is true.
74x12
Well-Known Member
Everyone's beliefs affect their vote. I don't see how your beliefs are less concerning to me; than mine are to you. That's why we have a republic and democratic system. Checks and balances etc.
Its a question of identity. Is one a Christian who just happens to live in.....?, or is one a .......who just happens to be a Christian?
I'm sure non religious also vote for what they believe to be the best for the 'common good' or their own.
Okay, I guess today you have to know how evidence works.
You are the one making the claim of "4,200 gods".
I am allowed to dismiss this claim unless you provide evidence.
I am not even saying that there aren't that many gods, I'm just asking you for your evidence. If there are that many, I'd like to know. It'd be an interesting fact and I'd like to know how I can know it if it is indeed true.
So prove it right. You are making the claim, not me. I am making no claim. I do not know the amount of gods that have been worshiped in human history. You are the one asserting a number with absolutely nothing to back it up.
It's on the person making the claim to provide the source to prove it. I can't say "There's an invisible space narwhal flying through the clouds of Jupiter" and demand that YOU prove there isn't one, otherwise you just have to accept my assertion.
This is called, in common internet lexicon, the "burden of proof". And it's all on you.
I provided an example link, you dont like it them tought
You are denying that link, sort it yourself
The link doesn't go to any statistic. It's not census or survey data. It's just some random person's internet post. It means nothing.
If you want to play that game... well I have a Quora account too so...
Ahem:
You are wrong. There were only seven gods that mankind has worshiped throughout all history.
See, here's a quora question where a guy asks why there are seven gods that were historically worshiped by all of mankind: https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Why-has-mankind-only-created-seven-different-gods-over-its-history
That proves that humanity has worshiped only seven gods, not 4,200!!
See, I know you will be able to look at what I just above in bold and I know that you will realize why what I did makes absolutely no sense and is completely wrong.
The thing is, though, my link providing "evidence" is of the exact same quality as your link containing "evidence". You can obviously tell why my evidence is complete nonsense, and if you can understand why my evidence is complete crap you can understand why yours is not sufficient either.
I can link to random internet posts that blindly assert my position ~ALL~DAY~ if you want. Are you ready to give me ~real~ evidence now, or do you accept my evidence and agree that the number of historical gods is seven, not 4,200.
Edit: Fun fact!! In the link you yourself posted there is a person who posted an answer who states that the 4,200 number is in fact misquoted and that the number does not refer to the number of gods but something else entirely. Of course that lady doesn't provide her sources either, so I don't know why I should trust her any more than you. Just food for thought that part your own link claims the number is inaccurate.
You opinion is noted, ultimately it is still opinion.
You are welcome to any account you want, please note, i haven't and dont really care what accounts you have.
Total bulpoop.
Greek gods
Zeus
Hera
Poseidon
Demeter
Ares
Athena
Apollo
Artemis
Hephaestus
Aphrodite
Hermes
Dionysus
Hades
Hypnos
Nike
Janus
Nemesis
Iris
Hecate
Tyche
I count more than 7, dont know about you, then there areare Roman, African, Aztec, Celtic, Egyptian etc, etc, etc gods
And 33 million (thats 33,000,000) hindu gods
As for the rest of your post,. Yawn
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Thats a misprint, there are 3 rashers there, it should read "Edible proof gods exist"
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
It would if your religion were "vulcan logic."
sealchan
Well-Known Member
Praise be!
loganonekenobi
Member
okay. so I made this post to provoke strong reactions. I'm somewhat dissapointed.
Still I will try to muster a better discussion on the topic.
In America we are seeing a strong right wing religious front pushing for "morals" that they believe every one should live by.
What's funny is that not long ago many states already had things like laws against fornication and birth control to single people. No one thought twice about giving homosexuals equal rights. Creation was taught as fact. So as to answer one of the first comments... the Christians did make laws that affected others.
on or about the time of the Scopes monkey trial, religion started to lose hold of our culture. It was a small step but it was bold. Then came Madylenn O'hare. She didn't feel right about making her child recite manditory bible prayers in a public school. This was absolutely scandalous. Then came birth control and abortion rights so that women could have jobs and careers while still holding on to a relationship. Many even having authority over men (too bad st paul).
Now we have a waive of atheists, agnostics, and free thinkers that are challenging the pedestal of christian morality.
This had to stop as far as the Jesus followers were concerned and so now they put into office any one, no matter how immoral, that will promote their view of life on others. If you don't believe me just look at the religiously motivated laws that have been past or suggested in the last 5 years.
On the other hand I want to point to a group of christians known as the Ammish. There are other names for similar groups but one thing many have in common is that they don't vote unless its a local law that affects them.
They live their lives according to their faith and bother no one on how they live unless its one of their own.
In other words, they police themselves. I can almost be certain that the new atheist movement is not due to anything the Ammish ever did.
One of the comments was that suddenly many folks wouldn't claim to be christian if the laws had real teeth to enforce. I believe that. Sadly I see most christains are only pretending faith because of culture acceptance and fear of the unknown.
I realize that a nation cannot have separate laws for various ethnic groups and call themselves a fair country to live in. I also realize that the religious have the right to vote as they see fit.
What I don't think the they realize is that some of the ideas that were posited in the first century are harmful now.
It seems no matter how much evidence I show to support this I get only excuses and verbal dodges.
To this end then I purposed a way to solve this problem. Of course, once the majority of "christians" were held accountable to the Bible I would bet anything that christianity would not be long for this world.
Still I will try to muster a better discussion on the topic.
In America we are seeing a strong right wing religious front pushing for "morals" that they believe every one should live by.
What's funny is that not long ago many states already had things like laws against fornication and birth control to single people. No one thought twice about giving homosexuals equal rights. Creation was taught as fact. So as to answer one of the first comments... the Christians did make laws that affected others.
on or about the time of the Scopes monkey trial, religion started to lose hold of our culture. It was a small step but it was bold. Then came Madylenn O'hare. She didn't feel right about making her child recite manditory bible prayers in a public school. This was absolutely scandalous. Then came birth control and abortion rights so that women could have jobs and careers while still holding on to a relationship. Many even having authority over men (too bad st paul).
Now we have a waive of atheists, agnostics, and free thinkers that are challenging the pedestal of christian morality.
This had to stop as far as the Jesus followers were concerned and so now they put into office any one, no matter how immoral, that will promote their view of life on others. If you don't believe me just look at the religiously motivated laws that have been past or suggested in the last 5 years.
On the other hand I want to point to a group of christians known as the Ammish. There are other names for similar groups but one thing many have in common is that they don't vote unless its a local law that affects them.
They live their lives according to their faith and bother no one on how they live unless its one of their own.
In other words, they police themselves. I can almost be certain that the new atheist movement is not due to anything the Ammish ever did.
One of the comments was that suddenly many folks wouldn't claim to be christian if the laws had real teeth to enforce. I believe that. Sadly I see most christains are only pretending faith because of culture acceptance and fear of the unknown.
I realize that a nation cannot have separate laws for various ethnic groups and call themselves a fair country to live in. I also realize that the religious have the right to vote as they see fit.
What I don't think the they realize is that some of the ideas that were posited in the first century are harmful now.
It seems no matter how much evidence I show to support this I get only excuses and verbal dodges.
To this end then I purposed a way to solve this problem. Of course, once the majority of "christians" were held accountable to the Bible I would bet anything that christianity would not be long for this world.
I'm fairly certain that number is just the result of a joke about how many deities in the varieties of Hinduism there are, not that there are literally 33 million Hindu deities. I doubt they have much more than polytheist cultures in general tend to have, like China or Japan.
Shad
Veteran Member
Simply put it's a wavier. It also a waste of government time and resources.
The religious right in America was at its strongest in the '80s through the early 2000s. It's been on the decline since the end the Bush Jr administration. They're aging, their leaders are dying off from old age (like Falwell) and Christianity is declining in the US. That's partially why we have Trump as the new face of the GOP and he did not campaign on faith and family values. It will be dead soon.
Shad
Veteran Member
To me this is a waste of government time and resources. It gets government far too involved in the citizen's personal life which is a power of government I will never support. Just call them hypocrites and be done with it.