New study finds tragic factor contributing to thousands of gun deaths nationwide

[We Never Know]

I think the study is BS. 93.15% aren't due to extreme temps but extreme temps are a factor. More were killed without extreme temps.

New study finds tragic factor contributing to thousands of gun deaths nationwide

"The study analyzed 100 major U.S. cities with the highest proportion of gun violence between 2015 and 2020. It found that out of 116 ,511 shootings, roughly 6.85% (or 7,973) were attributable to above-average temperatures."

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[Debater Slayer]

The US still has far higher rates of shootings than most of the hottest countries on the planet. If a country decides that possession of highly lethal tools, which are specifically designed to kill efficiently and easily, is a fundamental right for the average citizen, it should be aware of what that can cause.

Extreme heat or not, it seems to me that the main issue is the wide availability of the guns themselves, although some sources keep bending over backwards to blame other factors instead of addressing the elephant in the room.

 

[We Never Know]

The US still has far higher rates of shootings than most of the hottest countries on the planet. If a country decides that possession of highly lethal tools, which are specifically designed to kill efficiently and easily, is a fundamental right for the average citizen, it should be aware of what that can cause.

Extreme heat or not, it seems to me that the main issue is the wide availability of the guns themselves, although some sources keep bending over backwards to blame other factors instead of addressing the elephant in the room.

Or....
1. Blame extreme temps for peoples agitation
2. Global warming will cause more shootings

 

[Debater Slayer]

Or....
1. Blame extreme temps for peoples agitation
2. Global warming will cause more shootings

If the study is meant to point out why climate change is dangerous, I think its authors have chosen a pretty poor and tenuous link to focus on, in this case. There are numerous other well-established disasters resulting from climate change that they could have used to raise awareness.

 

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If the study is meant to point out why climate change is dangerous, I think its authors have chosen a pretty poor and tenuous link to focus on, in this case. There are numerous other well-established disasters resulting from climate change that they could have used to raise awareness.

The study started with asking what contributes to shootings not what the impact of climate change is. It's no surprise to me that people who are hot and miserable are also edgier and more likely to get violent compared to when the temps are decent.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think the study is BS. 93.15% aren't due to extreme temps but extreme temps are a factor. More were killed without extreme temps.

New study finds tragic factor contributing to thousands of gun deaths nationwide

"The study analyzed 100 major U.S. cities with the highest proportion of gun violence between 2015 and 2020. It found that out of 116 ,511 shootings, roughly 6.85% (or 7,973) were attributable to above-average temperatures."

MSN

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Click through to the actual study. They found that gun violence risk increases as a function of temperature (measured from the local seasonal average temperature) across the whole range of temperatures in the study.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If the study is meant to point out why climate change is dangerous, I think its authors have chosen a pretty poor and tenuous link to focus on, in this case. There are numerous other well-established disasters resulting from climate change that they could have used to raise awareness.

I had a look at the actual study. Looks like they were starting from the already-established knowledge that US gun violence has seasonal trends, with more of it in the summer than the winter, but they noted that because of lots of confounding factors, the reasons for this seasonality weren't clear: how much of it is about high temperatures? How much is about kids being off school in the summer?

Previous studies found a correlation between a city's summer mean temperature and its gun violence rate, but there are obviously all sorts of confounding variables related to geography in a study like that, so this study looked at temperatures relative to the city's own seasonal mean to drill down and figure out how much of this seasonal gun violence could be attributed to temperature.

The article aside, it seems like the study will have implications for gun violence prevention.

Summer gun violence already has a fair bit of attention - even almost 20 years later, I think people in the Toronto area still remember what the media dubbed "the Summer of the Gun" and don't want to repeat it.

... so what are the best ways to prevent it from happening again? I think this study speaks to that.

 

[We Never Know]

If the study is meant to point out why climate change is dangerous, I think its authors have chosen a pretty poor and tenuous link to focus on, in this case. There are numerous other well-established disasters resulting from climate change that they could have used to raise awareness.

I was being little a sarcastic. However if only 6.85% of shooting occur during extreme temps, that means 93.15% don't.

Maybe their is a correlation with more people being out in warm weather.

 

[We Never Know]

The study started with asking what contributes to shootings not what the impact of climate change is. It's no surprise to me that people who are hot and miserable are also edgier and more likely to get violent compared to when the temps are decent.

This link says one study showed much higher %

"One report found temperatures 10 degrees higher than average were associated with a 33.8 per cent higher rate of shootings"

Why there’s more US mass shootings in warmer weather

While there are many causes behind the rising tide of gun violence in the United States, researchers suggest weather could play an increasingly important role

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[9-10ths_Penguin]

I was being little a sarcastic. However if only 6.85% of shooting occur during extreme temps, that means 93.15% don't.

The risk increases as a function of temperature anomaly across the whole range, except for one weird dip at the top end:

Maybe their is a correlation with more people being out in warm weather.

The actual paper talked about possible causal factors. Did you read it?